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Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:55 pm to Giantkiller
129 days.
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:58 pm to Giantkiller
They are hunting us
Posted on 1/23/23 at 11:28 pm to Cosmo
I pray that one of these shitbags that raped Madison Brooks was Allie’s shooter. Because that’s the only way BRPD is gonna solve this
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:42 am to Giantkiller
130 days.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:00 pm to Giantkiller
This crime could be solved by spending some money and doing some actual investigation.
Why don't they want it solved?
Would the OT be willing to fund a workable plan to solve it?
Why don't they want it solved?
Would the OT be willing to fund a workable plan to solve it?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 1:57 pm to Giantkiller
How was the Utah murder caught? He was using a cellphone (had it on his person) which pinged off a cell tower.
They got a list of all phones in the area in use. They knew the make model and approx. year of his car. Did matches between cellphones - likely targeting those out of the area first - to vehicle and got a match. They tracked him and he threw away his trash at about 3 a.m. in a neighbor's can = DNA sample. Matched the one from scene = solved crime.
So how can a reasonable Rice investigator use these tactics?
Get the cellphone data for that night / that time period and locate within a mile every cellphone in use.
The crime happened when?
Witnesses say Rice was stopped at a train crossing in the 1500 block of Government Street around 2:20 Friday morning, she tried to make a U-turn and someone started shooting. Date: September 16, 2022.
We, as private citizens, can buy the list of the cells in use by phone number. Would take some effort then to match the phones to specific users. Can do reverse lookups for fees if private persons or a true state agency can just subpoena the info.
Here's an article on the data with places that sell it listed:
LINK
Narrowing in 2-3 a.m. that early morning within a 1 mile radius of the killing. How many phones in use that late in that area? May be able to narrow the search even closer to the actual scene of the crime.
500-1000 phones at most? Then go down to likely age of perps. Violent crimes in BR: 15-28. May have a list of 300-400 possibles. Crosscheck them with criminal records involving guns. This there first rodeo? I doubt it.
You could narrow it down to 10-20 possible suspects in that area with prior gun crimes there that night w/i a mile of the crime. They usually run in packs so get one to flip on the other 2.
But... do they want this crime solved?
One has to wonder...
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:17 pm to HodsonTiger13
quote:
This crime could be solved by spending some money and doing some actual investigation.
Why don't they want it solved?
Would the OT be willing to fund a workable plan to solve it?
I doubt the Rice family even bothers calling the detectives anymore. The only chance they have of solving any of this is through PI's. Some hardcore urban dudes who aren't afraid to go into the shite.
There's police departments like the one up in Idaho and there's ones like we have here in BR/NO. You want crimes solved down here, you better be willing to do it privately.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:21 pm to Giantkiller
quote:did you even read the Idaho Murder thread? The entire first half of the thread was posters railing on how horribly botched the investigation was by the keystone Barney fife department
There's police departments like the one up in Idaho and there's ones like we have here in BR/NO. You want crimes solved down here, you better be willing to do it privately.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:29 pm to Giantkiller
I contacted one of the companies that sells the phone data.
(Ignoring the politics, watch 2,000 MULES to see how effective the phone data mining can be.)
They won't sell, say, this 2 mile area during this one hour of time. It's more a huge (and costly) info dump.
I know a Ph.d. in computer science but these guys are expensive.
The data is there. Someone needs to go get it and narrow down the likely suspects in that area that time that night.
(Ignoring the politics, watch 2,000 MULES to see how effective the phone data mining can be.)
They won't sell, say, this 2 mile area during this one hour of time. It's more a huge (and costly) info dump.
I know a Ph.d. in computer science but these guys are expensive.
The data is there. Someone needs to go get it and narrow down the likely suspects in that area that time that night.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:44 pm to HodsonTiger13
BRPD doesn’t want this solved. That way their “continuing investigation” justifies their continued employment
Posted on 1/24/23 at 2:45 pm to SuperSaint
Well let's see.. Allie was shot Sept 13. The Idaho murders were Nov 13.
They have a suspect who's awaiting trial.
BR has:
They have a suspect who's awaiting trial.
BR has:
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:38 pm to Giantkiller
Phone brokers have the data from that night.
Feds are buying and using the data.
LINK
This is the data that solved the Utah case.
Allison was killed at 2:15 a.m. Not a lot of phones out and about at that time of night.
Find those in use within 1 square mile for 2-3 a.m. that morning. Cross check those with existing criminal records.
This was a carjacking or robbery using a gun. Likely not the first encounter of the perp or perps with law enforcement. Find those with priors and go see where they were that night and who they were with.
They likely fled the area quickly right after the 2:15 a.m. shooting so a quick exit from that area at that time = narrows the search.
Separate out the neighbors or people who lived close, including the man who heard the gunshots = narrows the search.
BR Police seems to be just waiting for one of the perps to commit another crime (kill someone else) and then tell them what happened in this murder.
Feds are buying and using the data.
LINK
This is the data that solved the Utah case.
Allison was killed at 2:15 a.m. Not a lot of phones out and about at that time of night.
Find those in use within 1 square mile for 2-3 a.m. that morning. Cross check those with existing criminal records.
This was a carjacking or robbery using a gun. Likely not the first encounter of the perp or perps with law enforcement. Find those with priors and go see where they were that night and who they were with.
They likely fled the area quickly right after the 2:15 a.m. shooting so a quick exit from that area at that time = narrows the search.
Separate out the neighbors or people who lived close, including the man who heard the gunshots = narrows the search.
BR Police seems to be just waiting for one of the perps to commit another crime (kill someone else) and then tell them what happened in this murder.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:40 pm to idlewatcher
quote:
BRPD doesn’t want this solved. That way their “continuing investigation” justifies their continued employment
Some of you are beyond delusional
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:55 pm to HodsonTiger13
quote:
How was the Utah murder caught? He was using a cellphone (had it on his person) which pinged off a cell tower.
They got a list of all phones in the area in use. They knew the make model and approx. year of his car. Did matches between cellphones - likely targeting those out of the area first - to vehicle and got a match. They tracked him and he threw away his trash at about 3 a.m. in a neighbor's can = DNA sample. Matched the one from scene = solved crime.
That's not how it happened, and the distinction is pretty important
quote:
Security footage from the campus of Washington State University in Pullman, Wash., where Kohberger is a graduate student, showed a similar white sedan headed in the direction of Moscow, about 15 miles away across the state line, shortly before 3 a.m. and then appearing to return around 5:30 a.m.
On Nov. 29, a police search of vehicles registered to WSU students revealed a 2015 white Hyundai Elantra registered to Bryan Kohberger, originally with Pennsylvania plates that were later registered in Washington.
After identifying Kohberger as a possible suspect, police discovered that he had been subject to a traffic stop in August. At that time, he gave Moscow police his phone number.
The bolded part is key. Police investigators don't have a "blank check" to just get a list of everybody's cell phones in an area at a time and go from there. Judges typically aren't going to sign off on that. What they will do is grant a warrant if you can show you have a suspect, and that the cell phone data will be pivotal in proving that suspect's guilt
If BRPD has a suspect or suspects, they can get a warrant for that data from the various carriers. But they can't just go fishing
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:59 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:
Some of you are beyond delusional
Yeah, that’s a stupid comment. Many disparaging things to say about BRPD but not that they are intentionally not solving murders to prop up their employment.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:01 pm to OldManRiver
Man. If I was her father, I'd buy that phone data and start hunting MF's. Carlos Hathcock style.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:02 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:
Some of you are beyond delusional
Why do we have NOTHING on this case?
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:04 pm to OldManRiver
Idaho murder suspect identified based on cell phone data, video, DNA: court documents
The affidavit also says that a cellphone belonging to Kohberger was near the victims’ home on a dozen occasions prior to the killings, and that while it was apparently turned off around the time of the early-morning attack, cell tower data place his phone in that region of Idaho shortly afterward.
LINK
So, yes, thank you for the clarification. Cell phone data was used but not for the night of that crime.
But... that's a high IQ perp who planned the crime days and weeks in advance.
Don't think we have that in Allison's case. Likely their phones were on and it was a crime of opportunity. It wasn't a targeted murder. Allison just tried to flee and he/they shot her.
The affidavit also says that a cellphone belonging to Kohberger was near the victims’ home on a dozen occasions prior to the killings, and that while it was apparently turned off around the time of the early-morning attack, cell tower data place his phone in that region of Idaho shortly afterward.
LINK
So, yes, thank you for the clarification. Cell phone data was used but not for the night of that crime.
But... that's a high IQ perp who planned the crime days and weeks in advance.
Don't think we have that in Allison's case. Likely their phones were on and it was a crime of opportunity. It wasn't a targeted murder. Allison just tried to flee and he/they shot her.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:07 pm to HodsonTiger13
quote:
This is the data that solved the Utah case.
Idaho, Baw.
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