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re: All Those Arts Majors Can't Find Jobs.... Oh Wait
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:25 am to LouisianaLady
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:25 am to LouisianaLady
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This is important too. Learning the hard way on this one. I'm not above a low-level starting place, but there are companies out there with absolutely zero room for growth.
Its super important. You need to make sure the company you go to doesn't value seniority over talent and doesn't require you to be in a certain position for a certain amount of time before you can be promoted, unless you are not a talented person. Startups are the best places to work IMO if you don't have a family and are able to take a chance.
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:26 am to SCwTiger
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Just have an old college friend that went to Loyola after we graduated and now is a major attorney in NOLA. Thanks
No problem. I'm sure a decent amount of successful attorneys in NOLA went to Loyola.......
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:27 am to Mo Jeaux
I guess I mean I've noticed that communications/marketing is often used as a buzzword to get people in and then hand them the mundane tasks that no one else at the office wants to do 
shite that you don't at all need an education for. Filing, typing, organizing, answering phones, etc.
shite that you don't at all need an education for. Filing, typing, organizing, answering phones, etc.This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:32 am to Boondock Saint
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I'm sure a decent amount of successful attorneys in NOLA went to Loyola.......
Loyola has some major attorneys.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:32 am to Freauxzen
Meanwhile in the blue collar world...
LINK
Not the greatest example of ethics, but it gives you an idea of how much people are making in trades these days.
I think you're starting to see an over saturation of kids going to college without a clue as to why they are going.
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A first-year apprentice makes $34.19 an hour, but a mechanic makes a staggering $94.11 an hour — a difference of $60 an hour per worker. He alleges that his company billed the contractors E.E. Cruz and Tully the higher rate.
LINK
Not the greatest example of ethics, but it gives you an idea of how much people are making in trades these days.
I think you're starting to see an over saturation of kids going to college without a clue as to why they are going.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:35 am to SCwTiger
Why is it the people who are most likely to say that not everyone deserves to go to college usually the ones who have kids that should probably be in the military or a trade school....but their kids are late bloomers....
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:37 am to goldenbadger08
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Are General Business majors still the largest unemployed group?
Nope, that would be political science majors. Unless you plan on being a lawyer, its a bullshite degree. And there are waaaaayyyyy tooo many lawyers.
Our son was a PS degree and is now in fact a lawyer. He's good but struggling because the law schools keep dumping new ones in the market place.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:41 am to mahdragonz
I always think it's amazing as an engineer to walk into a job site and see an iron worker or electrician and know they make more money than me.
Would it be wrong for me to encourage my kids to go that route if that's where the money is? Or spend 60-200k on a degree and hope they can pay it off when they get out?
Would it be wrong for me to encourage my kids to go that route if that's where the money is? Or spend 60-200k on a degree and hope they can pay it off when they get out?
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:44 am to Pavoloco83
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, its a bullshite degree.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:45 am to lsu480
quote:This isn't going to happen.
Nah, Obama will forgive all student loan debt soon.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:53 am to NYNolaguy1
they don't always make more than you and I can promise their life is much harder. As an engineer we work around welders that usually make more than us but in the end, most of those guys are topped out and have no way to advance.
Not saying trade school isnt a great thing. I put myself through college by working as a fire sprinkler installer, finished the apprenticeship and then went into inspection, then design. Without the trade i would prolly still just be a laborer.
BTW in you link, that is the billable rate not their salary.
Not saying trade school isnt a great thing. I put myself through college by working as a fire sprinkler installer, finished the apprenticeship and then went into inspection, then design. Without the trade i would prolly still just be a laborer.
BTW in you link, that is the billable rate not their salary.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:55 am to Freauxzen
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It became clear to her that the path she had in front of her spending the next decade of her life to pay off over $200,000 in student debt from undergrad and law school wasn’t the future she’d imagined.
Lots of people decide the career they'd planned on wasn't they'd imagined and so they switch to something else. Hell, I did that myself.
They can get jobs, it's just that the jobs they get won't require an MBA or JD.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:01 pm to lsu480
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That is her logic, fricking thief.
Had I not met my wife my senior year of college, I'd be ducked off in South America right now.
Ride it out for 20 years and the debt vanishes
I keep contemplating going back for an engineering degree, but I honestly just wanna run a food truck and cook.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:04 pm to lsu777
quote:Did a similar thing working as a core driller/saw cutter for concrete sub while in school. Definitely made me more employable and more knowledgeable abt what goes on in the field.
Not saying trade school isnt a great thing. I put myself through college by working as a fire sprinkler installer, finished the apprenticeship and then went into inspection, then design. Without the trade i would prolly still just be a laborer.
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BTW in you link, that is the billable rate not their salary.
Good catch. (I hope- I always hear stories on jobsites abt these crazy paying jobs)
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:05 pm to NYNolaguy1
I'm at lsu right now and I wish someone would have sat me down and explained the path to a blue collar skill career. I love working outside and am not scared of sweating. Plus the whole go to school for two years and make more than half my high school graduating class would wouldn't hurt either
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:17 pm to baseballmind1212
It really depends on where you are. If you can get in with a union in NYC, you're way better off than going the same route in say New Orleans, where (if I remember correctly), only a few trades are unionized, IBEW for electricians for example. The unions up here suck their clients dry of money, but it also ends up in their pockets at the end of the day, and they offer generous pay packages, with health insurance, 401k, etc.
Hell I heard an advert up here on the radio yesterday for a CDL A driver, first year 65k with benefits, pension, etc. There are jobs out there, you just need to see past the "you have to go to college" crowd.
Engineers on the other hand have a higher pay ceiling, but you still start out like 20-30k lower than what some of the trade guys make. You also have wayyy more responsibility and more schooling. There's also seems to be more of a supply of engineers than blue collar guys, which I think is kinda the crux of this thread.
Hell I heard an advert up here on the radio yesterday for a CDL A driver, first year 65k with benefits, pension, etc. There are jobs out there, you just need to see past the "you have to go to college" crowd.
Engineers on the other hand have a higher pay ceiling, but you still start out like 20-30k lower than what some of the trade guys make. You also have wayyy more responsibility and more schooling. There's also seems to be more of a supply of engineers than blue collar guys, which I think is kinda the crux of this thread.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
Also have to think about quality of life here. Do I want to be welding when I'm 55? A nice office engineering job won't wear out my body as much.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:31 pm to jimbeam
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Also have to think about quality of life here. Do I want to be welding when I'm 55? A nice office engineering job won't wear out my body as much.
Agree on all points. No one wants to be 65 and still on the side of a building welding, when they could be in the office telling others what to do.
OTOH think of all the 20 something's (with degrees, and debt) serving food/drinks. I can't help but think they'd be better off in a trade like that, with more money and better opportunity for financial mobility. No one (esp. "High School career counselors") is telling these kids that there are jobs out there like that.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:18 pm to Pavoloco83
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Are General Business majors still the largest unemployed group?
Nope, that would be political science majors.
I got my degree in Business Management with a minor in Political Science!
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:35 pm to Freauxzen
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Why MBAs and JDs Can’t Get Jobs
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A year into her law career at a large NYC firm
i quit reading
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 1:35 pm
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