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re: All Star team fails because of Select aka Travel Baws
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:42 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:42 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Cooperstown at 12 was was of the best experiences we had besides going play down in the Dominican Republic when he was 13
Had a nephew who didn't play travel ball but played ball all over the country since he was 13. He played rec ball at Metairie Playground before it was Pontiff..
Played for a 9 y/o AAU team called the "Lil Raiders" Frank Cazeaux put together when Kenner was the host city for the national tournament . They won it...
Started for JPRD East Babe Ruth teams and won the nationals two out of the three years he played. Played all four years at Rummel and was part of the starting rotation his Jr and Sr year. Played Legion ball for Schaff Bros and pitched two years at Loyola.
After that he was burned out, got tired of playing, and he couldn't do it any longer. He doesn't have any regrets, he loved playing all those years he played.
I hope most of these travel ball parents, who have all these expectations for their kids, know this could happen.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:51 pm
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Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:42 pm to back9Tiger
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It's apparent you're one of those parents that have given the stigma that travel ball has.
Thank you for clearly proving my point.
How?
Because I'm telling the truth? Because I know what I am talking about?
Travel ball has a bad stigma because people join dumb organizations, because people have stupid expectations and have no clue what their Lil Johnnie is at skill wise.
Also people have unrealistic expectations on what it takes to be good.
But please tell me how I am playing into "travel ball stigma"
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:43 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
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If you are playing on a competitive travel ball team, I dont see how you have time to play rec ball too. Or why you would even want to.
My son plays on a Majors team and we play away from home a lot. My in-laws love to watch him play. This last year my father in law has not been in good shape so we played rec this year so they could get to see him play before it’s to late. As far as playing all stars, our travel season was over and he wanted to play so we did
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:43 pm to 777Tiger
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legion was hs age in my day, they have younger groups now?
He’s in every tourney ball thread saying stupid shite. He doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:44 pm to lsu777
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what you mean? All stars from tball to 14 has been the norm for 40 years now.
Tball kids don’t even know the score. When I coached we weren’t allowed to keep it (even though the dads knew what it was). All Stars at that age is just stupid. Don’t get me started on All Star coaches preferring kids from their team.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:45 pm to Prominentwon
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Nobody plays legion. He’s in every tourney ball thread saying stupid shite. He doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about.
Yea nobody plays legion.
Most high schools have 15u, 16u & 18u teams either through different organizations and most play 2d tourneys through the summer.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:46 pm to back9Tiger
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It's apparent you're one of those parents that have given the stigma that travel ball has.
Thank you for clearly proving my point.
You’re admitting in this thread that you have no control of your household. I don’t think you have a ton of room talking shite.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:48 pm to LSU9102
Chances are, the team failed because of dickwads like you. Select and non-select is utter horseshite, especially when you are talking about 10 year old kids. Instead of taking a loss, and using it as an opportunity to talk to your kid about better batting, better fielding, better baserunning, or maybe being a better teammate, you use it to sow division in your own mind, which will bleed over to your kid whether you say anything or not.
Take it from someone who coached his two sons through 10 years of travel baseball between the two of them, if the best you can do is find fault with the decisions of the coaches, or the play of someone else's 10 year old kid, find something better to do. Encourage your kid to play individual sports like tennis, or wrestling, or boxing, so that the greatness of your decisions and the obviously superior talents of your kid will be singularly allowed to shine.
The path you are on will most likely not have a good outcome. If your kid doesn't end up hating the sport, he or she could very well end up resenting you, or they could end up having to watch you throw or catch hands from one of the dads of the 10 year old you want to blame losses on.
At 10 years old, winning is great. But building character that will carry them through the rest of their lives is what is important.
Take it from someone who coached his two sons through 10 years of travel baseball between the two of them, if the best you can do is find fault with the decisions of the coaches, or the play of someone else's 10 year old kid, find something better to do. Encourage your kid to play individual sports like tennis, or wrestling, or boxing, so that the greatness of your decisions and the obviously superior talents of your kid will be singularly allowed to shine.
The path you are on will most likely not have a good outcome. If your kid doesn't end up hating the sport, he or she could very well end up resenting you, or they could end up having to watch you throw or catch hands from one of the dads of the 10 year old you want to blame losses on.
At 10 years old, winning is great. But building character that will carry them through the rest of their lives is what is important.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:49 pm to Tiger Prawn
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How is the coach's kid that got stranded on 3rd "select"? You said 2 non-select batters produced 3 runs. So there couldn't have been any "select" players still left on base after a pair of non-select players batted in 3 runs.
It was poorly worded but I got it.
3 “non-select” kids accounted for 3 runs. A “select” kid managed to get to 3rd with no outs and 3 “select” kids failed to bring him home. Being down by 4, they lost by 1 run.
Not too difficult to be honest. Though the overall point is fricking dumb.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:51 pm to Auburn80
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Tball kids don’t even know the score. When I coached we weren’t allowed to keep it (even though the dads knew what it was). All Stars at that age is just stupid. Don’t get me started on All Star coaches preferring kids from their team.
Little league keeps score and I do agree it's stupid and my kid is on a tball all stars. It's dumb.
But it has been that away for 40 years. It's not something new and the kids do enjoy it on most teams and do get a lot better during the all star practicing.
But I do get your point.
But some in this thread are in denial. Rec is just not really competitive in almost every case. For example there are some kids playing in the rec leagues around the lake area that ay travel, those kids are dominating. I know of some that are good, not great travel players, that are compelte studs in rec.....to the point It's almost unsafe when they are hitting.
I was a huge advocate for rec, but if you go volunteer a couple years...yea you will have a change of heart. I still do it and have for 7 years now....but it becomes harder and harder, especially if you happen to not have a team of good parents. I have gotten to the point I draft based on the parents and not kids skill level. Much easier to teach baseball than teach good parenting.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:53 pm to back9Tiger
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Contention is with the wife, she is into it 110%.
So you're saying you can't man up and tell your wife to pull your kid?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:53 pm to lsu777
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and my kid is on a tball all stars. It's dumb.
that brag is so subtle you almost had to go back and re-read it. but my eagle eyes caught it the first go round.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:55 pm to Chad504boy
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that brag is so subtle you almost had to go back and re-read it. but my eagle eyes caught it the first go round.
Haha not a brag, he is 5, they all suck
I think its more along the lines of the other coaches knew they could get me and my buddy suckered in to coaching based on it being "for the kids"
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:56 pm to lsu777
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Yea nobody plays legion.
Most high schools have 15u, 16u & 18u teams either through different organizations and most play 2d tourneys through the summer.
So we play in the Southeast Showcase Series
LINK
Teams are made up with kids as young as 14.
This weekend in BR there was the Summer Slam at the Box with 14-18 year olds...
This weekend we are playing in a 2D event called the Big Easy Classic which will have class of 2021-2024 kids....these games are played at high schools across the metro area and UNO. Most, not all of these teams are high school summer teams that call themselves "legion" Like Jesuit....they call their upper class, better team their"legion" team...the other team is their "metro" team.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:56 pm to lsu777
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I think its more along the lines of the other coaches knew they could get me and my buddy suckered in to coaching based on it being "for the kids"
ahh... coach's kids who aren't good enough happen to be volunteering for the allstar system. A story as old as moses parting the seas.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:58 pm to back9Tiger
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It's apparent you're one of those parents that have given the stigma that travel ball has.
Thank you for clearly proving my point.
He is 100% speaking the truth, as I am currently experiencing it
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:01 pm to lsu777
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Yea nobody plays legion.
and yes...I call high school ball during the summer "legion" out of habit as most of the people my age do....it's not the Legion League like it was 25-30 years, so I'm sorry if I upset anyone
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:02 pm to LSU9102
I love how you people think anyone else in the world cares about your kids baseball game.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:05 pm to lsu777
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its gottent o the point skill level and general strength wise, atleast at the really good schools, if you are not playing high level ball and lifting and taking private lessons....its almost impossible to even make the high school team.
Talent is talent and a lot of talent doesn't play travel ball.
What you really mean is... the HS coach also coaches the travel ball team, and gets paid to coach the travel ball team... so he tells the best kids they better play travel ball so he gets paid...
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:05 pm to lsu777
Your son hates you fwiw
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