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re: All incoming freshmen should attend community college this upcoming fall
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:05 am to tiger91
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:05 am to tiger91
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We were told any credits from anywhere in a fall or spring semester would cancel her scholarships. She is taking classes online this summer that her school has approved and will accept.
What’s the school she got into doing this fall?
Assume all online already been announced?
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:19 am to I Bleed Garnet
Ole Miss (ya'll don't boo me) and they've announced in person classes this fall barring a state or national emergency.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:27 am to Tri City Tigers
Online learning still has a lot of undeserved stigmas.
Online classes taught by professors who also teach the same-class in-person, give the same tests, same assignments, etc are just as good as in-oerson classes.
The idea that all online classes are like the University of Phoenix degree mills, has to change.
Of course, most college freshmen (and some sophomores) would do well to go to a community college to save money.
This is an area where I think Mississippi is much better than Louisiana. The junior college system in Mississippi has football teams, dorms, organizations, etc, that actually give you somewhat of a college experience. And transferring credits is never an issue.
In LA, no one is getting any college experience by going to Delgado or Nunez. The education is fine, but the reality is that a lot of 19 year olds want to live on campus and have a "college life" and LA doesn't provide that in the 2 year system.
I do agree with the OP that if students aren't allowed on campus either way, then yes online CC makes more sense for these freshmen. But the issue is bigger than that.
Online classes taught by professors who also teach the same-class in-person, give the same tests, same assignments, etc are just as good as in-oerson classes.
The idea that all online classes are like the University of Phoenix degree mills, has to change.
Of course, most college freshmen (and some sophomores) would do well to go to a community college to save money.
This is an area where I think Mississippi is much better than Louisiana. The junior college system in Mississippi has football teams, dorms, organizations, etc, that actually give you somewhat of a college experience. And transferring credits is never an issue.
In LA, no one is getting any college experience by going to Delgado or Nunez. The education is fine, but the reality is that a lot of 19 year olds want to live on campus and have a "college life" and LA doesn't provide that in the 2 year system.
I do agree with the OP that if students aren't allowed on campus either way, then yes online CC makes more sense for these freshmen. But the issue is bigger than that.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:28 am to GetCocky11
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The universities I've seen in the south seem to be going towards in-class instruction with a modified calendar (no fall break, campus closes after Thanksgiving break).
Football. It’s because football.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:38 am to facher08
connections mean a lot in life.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:52 am to Oilfieldbiology
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States are starting to open all over the place. Why the hell wouldn’t young kids be able to attend colleges in 2+ months?
Because Dem's is dumb
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:53 am to Tri City Tigers
That will mind frick the shite out of some liberals
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:02 pm to Tri City Tigers
If there are no transfer restrictions for the school you ultimately want to graduate from, I'd absolutely encourage someone entering college to consider this route. It's a CONSIDERABLE cost savings for the first two years (or so) and if you're in the same city as a major college (BRCC, I'm looking at you), you can have much (though certainly not all) of the underclassman college experience.
Where I'd, unequivocally, be wary is first with the quality of the instruction you receive at the community college versus what can be expected from the same course at the four-year. The goal is to cheaply get your prerequisite courses out of the way at a community college. For instance, If your plan is to go into a more demanding technical discipline after transfer and the "A" you got in your calculus course at community college was a watered down grade equivalent to a "C" at the four year, you have problems. You will be ABSOLUTELY frickED if you transfer without a fundamental understanding of the basics of calculus and then are expected to take Differential Equations to continue the major track. It's not just a letter grade you're getting at the community college, it's still got to provide the fundamental foundations required to continue on a major track after transfer.
The second place I'd thoroughly do my homework is finding out whether the four year will accept entrance into the major program you want if you weren't in residence already. While the university may accept admission and transfer of credits from a community/two-year college, that is no guarantee that each college within the university will accept that student into certain major programs or even into the college. I'd be damned sure that I'd be accepted into the program I want to study before I'd spend two years of my life at a CC/two-year trying to save some money. Finding out I'd have to start all over again even though I was accepted to the university would be devastating.
Where I'd, unequivocally, be wary is first with the quality of the instruction you receive at the community college versus what can be expected from the same course at the four-year. The goal is to cheaply get your prerequisite courses out of the way at a community college. For instance, If your plan is to go into a more demanding technical discipline after transfer and the "A" you got in your calculus course at community college was a watered down grade equivalent to a "C" at the four year, you have problems. You will be ABSOLUTELY frickED if you transfer without a fundamental understanding of the basics of calculus and then are expected to take Differential Equations to continue the major track. It's not just a letter grade you're getting at the community college, it's still got to provide the fundamental foundations required to continue on a major track after transfer.
The second place I'd thoroughly do my homework is finding out whether the four year will accept entrance into the major program you want if you weren't in residence already. While the university may accept admission and transfer of credits from a community/two-year college, that is no guarantee that each college within the university will accept that student into certain major programs or even into the college. I'd be damned sure that I'd be accepted into the program I want to study before I'd spend two years of my life at a CC/two-year trying to save some money. Finding out I'd have to start all over again even though I was accepted to the university would be devastating.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:03 pm to tiger91
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Ole Miss (ya'll don't boo me) and they've announced in person classes this fall barring a state or national emergency.
Yea so I see no reason for her not to attend
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:13 pm to Tri City Tigers
One size fits ALL BS.
I have a incoming Bio-Chem major on full ride. She will enter and only be 3 credit hours away from a Sophomore in August.
Any Community Colleges you know that can help a Pre-Med Student? Or should she have gone out of state under your plan?
I have a incoming Bio-Chem major on full ride. She will enter and only be 3 credit hours away from a Sophomore in August.
Any Community Colleges you know that can help a Pre-Med Student? Or should she have gone out of state under your plan?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:23 pm to ELLSSUU
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Or should she have gone out of state under your plan?
My plan was to never leave state.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:33 pm to Tri City Tigers
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My plan was to never leave state
Understand but show me a Louisiana Community College that can advance her towards Med School. I’ll wait, lol.
Her ONLY real choice in your plan would be out of state.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:35 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Oh she’s going back. Apartment lease was signed some time ago — she’d rather be with her friends than us at home and I’d worry if she was happier with us than them.
We’ve been told that some larger classes may be online but most of hers aren’t huge and can be spaced out from what she tells me.
We’ve been told that some larger classes may be online but most of hers aren’t huge and can be spaced out from what she tells me.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:50 pm to armsdealer
quote:No they haven’t. List them.
Most schools
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:51 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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You never know if come the next semester they take away your acceptance or you don’t get in because your community college was shitty or the next wave of applications were better
Unlikely. Only time transferring would be a problem is if you are trying to transfer to a top tier school who rarely takes transfers or have limited slots (Again these are top programs). Of course you would have to reapply with coursework from your CC but if it's an accredited institution and your GPA is good. Then you are fine.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:52 pm to tiger91
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Oh she’s going back. Apartment lease was signed some time ago — she’d rather be with her friends than us at home and I’d worry if she was happier with us than them.
We’ve been told that some larger classes may be online but most of hers aren’t huge and can be spaced out from what she tells me.
Yea from the link i posted it shows most schools
Will be in person
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:53 pm to ELLSSUU
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Understand but show me a Louisiana Community College that can advance her towards Med School. I’ll wait, lol.
Her ONLY real choice in your plan would be out of state.
Your daughter is pretty much a sophomore at this point and my thread was not meant towards people that have most of their freshman work complete.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The idea that all online classes are like the University of Phoenix degree mills, has to change.
True but schools also have to get better by protecting the integrity of the class and presenting information to the students.
Ive had a class where lectures were posted online weekly, discussion forums used to interact with the professor and a lockdown browser plus webcam of test. It was a very hard class. But the format made it that it was convenient being online but still kept the integrity and learning environment intact.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:22 pm to Tri City Tigers
I truly believe the higher education bubble will burst this fall.....it was already there - covid is accelerating the issues.
The worthless degrees have to be cleaved from the curriculum- no reason there should be some of the stupid arse programs there are today.
Pre med
Engineering
Accounting
History
Math
Finance
English
Non doctoral level medical studies
Biology
Foreign languages
Music
Education
Economics
Construction related degrees
Pre law courses
Criminal justice
Political science
That is what is needed at a good university - forget all the underwater basket weaving bullshite - it is a waste of money for the students
The worthless degrees have to be cleaved from the curriculum- no reason there should be some of the stupid arse programs there are today.
Pre med
Engineering
Accounting
History
Math
Finance
English
Non doctoral level medical studies
Biology
Foreign languages
Music
Education
Economics
Construction related degrees
Pre law courses
Criminal justice
Political science
That is what is needed at a good university - forget all the underwater basket weaving bullshite - it is a waste of money for the students
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:30 pm to tiger91
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Ole Miss
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