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re: All eyes on Oregon as state law takes effect, decriminalizing possession of hard drugs
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:29 pm to fallguy_1978
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:29 pm to fallguy_1978
Who pays for the addiction treatment?
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:33 pm to Vidic
Yep bet those shake machines would be clean as a whistle with a methhead on staff.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:34 pm to RLDSC FAN
So blow is cool in Oregon...? Any word on the hookers?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:39 pm to Vidic
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You don’t have to go that far. Just visit Opelousas
Opelousas has its fair share of problems..... but is nowhere near in the level of portland.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:41 pm to KemoSabe65
They’d be better than the job you do already
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:51 pm to LSU0358
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I can't disagree. I'll be watching Oregon closely to see if usage actually increases with legalization.
They're not legalizing the drugs. They're simply changing how they punish people who they find with drugs. They won't punish for small amounts but they'll still come down on distribution and selling.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:55 pm to Ace Midnight
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Meth has been rampant in rural Oregon for decades - of course, a lot of rural America has dealt with that, but still.
Yeah it's pretty out of hand here. Bad enough that you can't get cold medicine with pseudoephedrine without a prescription.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 7:59 pm to lsupride87
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Hard drugs being illegal and the stigma associated with that absolutely keep some people away from doing them.
Nah.
How much has hard drug usage increased in places where drugs are decriminalized? Drugs like meth would not even exist if other drugs had been decriminalized long ago.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:01 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Who pays for the addiction treatment?
From the voter information pamphlet:
"To fund the centers, the measure requires legislative appropriations to the authority, redirects marijuana tax account balances above $11,250,000 quarterly to the authority and dedicates to the authority any savings to the state from reductions in arrests, incarceration and supervision resulting from the measure. Current law allocates marijuana tax revenue for other uses by state and local governments. The measure reduces the marijuana tax revenue for the other uses. The measure also requires that the Secretary of State biennially conduct a financial and performance audit of the fund established by the measure."
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:02 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The new law only applies to possession and does not make it legal to sell, distribute or manufacture drugs.
lol wut
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:02 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Who pays for the addiction treatment?
Probably tax payers. Would it be more expensive than incarceration? I don't really have those answers but I don’t think our current system is really working.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:08 pm to Eat Your Crow
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The new law only applies to possession and does not make it legal to sell, distribute or manufacture drugs.
lol wut
The idea is that addiction is a medical issue and enabling addicts is a crime. It's more about providing addicts with the the help they need without making them felons.
I voted for it. Maybe it won't work, but we can't afford to keep throwing these people in jail and releasing them with criminal records.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:27 pm to krones
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The idea is that addiction is a medical issue and enabling addicts is a crime. It's more about providing addicts with the the help they need without making them felons.
I voted for it. Maybe it won't work, but we can't afford to keep throwing these people in jail and releasing them with criminal records.
I’m more concerned with the suppliers. If you want to get rid of the problem you have to come down extremely hard on the people on the street peddling. The top down approach will never work too much money involved.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
As long as we dont revitalize ODs I am down.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:32 pm to fallguy_1978
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Probably tax payers. Would it be more expensive than incarceration? I don't really have those answers but I don’t think our current system is really working.
Tax payers pay for everything. And you got between 30-60k per person per year to cover rehab. Idk if that’s enough but frick it, let’s try something.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:40 pm to SECdragonmaster
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Example: Don’t rush them to the hospital during an overdose.
That just makes you an a-hole
Posted on 2/1/21 at 9:33 pm to Buckeye Backer
Every homeless junkie on the west coast is about to move to Portland.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 9:34 pm to WestCoastAg
They are defacto legalizing them with zero criminal penalties.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 9:37 pm to teke184
Rural Oregon is meth central.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 9:41 pm to RLDSC FAN
If the government in Oregon were smart, they would increase enforcement of actual crime and put money into local police agencies, earmarked for increased staffing and training. That way the drug legalization laws could actually be successful.
But they are not smart. With crime (especially gun violence) currently increasing as they further neuter their police depts, the drug legalization will likely just exacerbate some of the current problems.
But they are not smart. With crime (especially gun violence) currently increasing as they further neuter their police depts, the drug legalization will likely just exacerbate some of the current problems.
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