re: ALL DELTA flights grounded WORLDWIDE

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I'm in the mess. Have 6 delta flights this week in total. 4 different cities.

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Right there with ya. I have MSY-ATL-DCA-CVG-ATL-MSY this week.

Good news is I start at home so I can just sit tight and watch before leaving home.

This guy didn't have anything to do with it, did he?

D - Don't
E - Ever
L - Leave
T - The
A - Airport

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The govt has strict rules on airline crewmembers and truckers and anybody else who moves shite from point A to point B. If their clock starts and they cannot fly their first leg and they are fully scheduled even if they fly the first leg 5 hours later they aren't flying their last leg. Even if they fly there whole schedule today moved back 5 hours they are not starting tomorrow when they are scheduled.

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Actually the way it works is pilots are allowed a 14 hour duty day, 10 of which can be actual flying. The 14 hour clock starts the minute the show up to the airport and of course ends exactly 14 hours later. However, the last flying must begin at least 30 min after the start of the 14 hour clock and be done at least 30 min prior to that 14 hour clock ending. The ten hours worth of flying can be done anytime within in that 13 hour window. Flying time starts as soon as the airplane door is closed for pay reasons(this is why pilots have no problem sitting on the Tarmac for 4 hours if there's a delay instead of offloading). So, any pilot that came into work this morning has already started his 14 hour shift regardless of any delays and will have to be off duty in 14 hours. This obviously causes an issue later in the day when Delta has to find pilots for the currently delayed flights and the flights scheduled later tonight. Now, you may ask, why don't these pilots just stop the 14 hour clock, go home and come back when the delay is over? Well, the answer is that there must be at least a 10 hour rest period between duty shifts regardless of the length of the shift. Doesn't matter whether it was 1 hour or the full 14, he is required by law to go home or to the hotel for a minimum of 10 hours before reporting back for duty.


There, now everyone is educated.

I'm flying out of George Bush right now, and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I'm flying United but wow is all I gotta say.

They don't have anywhere near enough pilots and planes to cover all of them not moving for several hours. The original guy I replied to was one of those Internet no problem guys that minimize everything. It was pretty logical since he was presenting himself as a font of all knowledge to ask him about his familiarity with the subject.

I used to work in aircraft scheduling. I didn't build our optimizer but I made it work the way it was designed to.

Our crew rules were undoubtedly different but time is time. As soon as their first bank of flights moves into their second they are erred.

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Why don't you try educating yourself?

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I was hoping Wilbur gt Wright would lend me some of his knowledge.

I still don't understand why he went crazy.

For EVERYONE'S info...Delta has lifted the 'ground-stop' and their twitter account says "Remain Calm, All Is Well".

But life is STILL over for all of us.

Per FBN

This is probably my 3rd greatest fear in life. Sitting on an airplane, just stuck. #1 Is pooing on the back of my shirt and #2 is older Asian ladies.

You should have checked with the used to be optimizer before you posted something so absurd.