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Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:45 am to nola000
Alcoholism as well as other forms of addiction are manifestations of underlying emotional distress. Coping mechanisms to hide some emotional disturbance one has suffered in their lifetime.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:46 am to TigerNlc
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Some people will literally die if they stop drinking or using the drug they are addicted to.
You've never heard of tapering off under medical supervision?? And I'm the moron?
And btw, my gf would literally die if she couldn't play on her phone, so there's that....Look, she has a disease. Quit attacking me..
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:47 am to EarlyCuyler3
I stand corrected
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:47 am to Clark W Griswold
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But when people get addicted to meth or heroin nobody refers to it as a disease.
Alcoholism is a symptom of a disease that becomes a problem in itself.
Meth and Heroin addictions are a result of powerful physical addictions. And may also be symptoms of a disease.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 8:49 am
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:48 am to Clark W Griswold
It would be better for all addicts and society as a whole if we treated addition like a disease.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:49 am to Clark W Griswold
Alcoholism is something made up by nagging women with nothing better to do. Nobody ever got hooked on beer
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:50 am to Pecker
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and cola by the liter, specifically.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:50 am to Napoleon
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would be better for all addicts and society as a whole if we treated addition like a disease.
Agreed. The way we treat mental health in general needs to be reevaluated in a large way by society.
And this current trend of promoting mental insanity as normal is as bizarre as it is terrible.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:51 am to OMLandshark
quote:nah i think he is right, Addiction should be classified as a Mental Illness.
Because any habits that are difficult to break are now referred to as diseases. We do this to make people feel better about themselves, which actually hinders them in breaking the habit.
I used to think this, but you’re wrong. Addiction clearly hasn’t affected your life to an extreme degree yet.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:51 am to gumbo2176
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Diabetes, cancer, ALS, etc. are diseases and not something anyone chooses to have happen to them. And before anyone jumps my crap, I know things people do things that can bring on these diseases such as smoking, eating too much fried foods, sugars, sodas, etc. but that doesn't explain how small kids get fatal diseases like cancer, leukemia, brain tumors etc.
There was a Veterinarian, taught Medical Terminology at NSU, he stated on multiple occasions publicly: People who take insulin for diabetes or beta blockers for HBP are addicts the same as heroin or meth junkies.
Of course, later on in the semester I took his course he let slip how his entire household nearly died from CO poisoning from a clogged exhaust vent on the water heater. Must've had some lingering brain damage.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:52 am to Napoleon
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It would be better for all addicts and society as a whole if we treated addition like a disease.
Society has been treating it like a disease for the last 40 years, and society has not gotten better. It gives addicts an excuse to continue to use. It's not their fault. It's a disease.
I've lived this IRL. Believing that they have a disease is music to an alcoholics ears. They take no responsibility for their drinking and consequences, especially to their family and loved ones. If they didn't have a disease, they wouldn't be drinking....
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:54 am to Pecker
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Because any habits that are difficult to break are now referred to as diseases. We do this to make people feel better about themselves, which actually hinders them in breaking the habit.
This is bullshite.
A drug and alcohol addictions isn't the same as breaking a bad habit like junk food or biting your nails.
However, if you are suffering from depression and anxiety and you are self medicating with junk food instead of therapy and exercise then you have developed an addiction as a symptom of your mental illness.
You bury your feelings and fears in food instead of addressing them which just furthers both problems.
A large problem we have is treating symptoms while ignoring the root causes.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:59 am to Festus
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You've never heard of tapering off under medical supervision?? And I'm the moron? And btw, my gf would literally die if she couldn't play on her phone, so there's that....Look, she has a disease. Quit attacking me..
Yes you are a moron. You stated it was just a bad habit.
If you need medical attention not to die because your body is addicted to that substance it's not just a bad habit.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:09 am to gumbo2176
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Addiction is the result of "choices" you have made whether it is to consume too much alcohol or stick needles in your veins to get high.
I feel like you don't want to call it a disease simply because you don't have sympathy for alcoholics - which doesn't eliminate it from being a disease.
And if we're to consider the conditions caused by actions isn't a disease view, what about aids, lung cancer, etc.?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:10 am to TigerNlc
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Yes you are a moron. You stated it was just a bad habit.
link?
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If you need medical attention not to die because your body is addicted to that substance it's not just a bad habit.
I agree. However, that doesn't necessarily qualify it as a disease. It does, however, qualify it as an addiction.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:10 am to Clark W Griswold
It’s not.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:11 am to Clark W Griswold
Never understood that either TBH. My mother is an alcoholic and like with any other "disease", you can't just quit having cancer all of a sudden which to me anyway, signals CHOICE.
FWIW, none of her immediate family has any alcohol issues.
FWIW, none of her immediate family has any alcohol issues.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:13 am to Festus
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Believing that they have a disease is music to an alcoholics ears. They take no responsibility for their drinking and consequences
It's actually the total opposite. It's incurable and completely your responsibility to maintain it once it's in remissoon. People who use it as an excuse are going to continue to drink whether you call it a disease or not.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 9:13 am to TigerNlc
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Are you some kind of damn moron?
Some people will literally die if they stop drinking or using the drug they are addicted to. It's not quite as simple as breaking their habbit.
Disease has a very vague definition. There's lots of things that can be considered a disease. It just doesn't seem fitting to put it in the same category as cancer or aids.
Telling addicts they have a disease isn't going to help them quit. They're already weak minded to begin with. Giving them excuses to continue hurting themselves isn't helping cure their "disease".
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 9:16 am
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