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Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:51 am to TH03
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Why? This is a very silly opinion to hold. A man who guns down an innocent family has to pay his debt to society.
I suggest you go back and look at the chain of replies.
How would you define “all life”? All as in everyone. Not all children.
You’re missing the point.
Hint: I agree with you. But that’s not the point.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:51 am to cas4t
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Or forcing a young mother into raising a child because she made a mistake at age 14 or even 18.
She could put the child up for adoption.
Adoptions are insanely expensive in the U.S. (average 20-50k). Have to wonder if part of that is because it is easier now to get an abortion than keep the pregnancy and put the child up for adoption.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:51 am to cas4t
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When someone’s religious beliefs can directly affect legislation, absolutely.
Why is murder illegal?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:52 am to athenslife101
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I also strongly do not like this appearing more to be about power politics than creating a valid law.
Every abortion related law passed since 1973 has been about power politics, not creating a valid law. It's not an appearance, it's fact.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:52 am to Centinel
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It is if you believe killing an unborn child is murder.
I'm going to need some concrete evidence on conception being the time a mass of cells becomes an actual person. Otherwise, I'm going to assume it's your (probably religious) opinion that is based on nothing.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:52 am to East Coast Band
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The bill contains an exception for when the pregnancy creates a serious health risk for the woman, but there is no exception for rape or incest.
The "mental health risk" will run rampant to justify the abortion.
I am pro-life, but exceptions should be made for proven cases of rape or incest.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:54 am to Wayne Campbell
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Every abortion related law passed since 1973 has been about power politics, not creating a valid law. It's not an appearance, it's fact.
Anyone who actually reads the legal reasoning of Roe v. Wade knows this.
As I said previously, correct ruling, horrid reasoning for it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:54 am to lsunurse
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She could put the child up for adoption.
There isn’t a plethora of parents adopting and if you think it’s solely due to cost you age naive. Most people want their own child with their eyes, nose, etc.
In reality, the child will likely end up in foster care.
You’re also conveniently not mentioning the costs of pregnancy and child labor.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:55 am to TigersHuskers
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if it wasnt for abortion wed have a lot more trashier elements of society around.
Walk through any Wal-Mart and youll see what I mean
Easier more ethical solution to abortion is having the Waltons dose Zyklon B into their HVACs. 2019 Christmas shopping season would be best bringing shoppers the gift of gas.
Abortion doesn't discriminate, killing future Target shoppers too.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:55 am to Teague
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I'm going to need some concrete evidence on conception being the time a mass of cells becomes an actual person.
The Alabama legislature says it's when a heartbeat is present.
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Otherwise, I'm going to assume it's your (probably religious) opinion that is based on nothing.
I'm an atheist and solidly pro-choice.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:55 am to Centinel
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Why is murder illegal?
Logical fallacy. Try again.
I cited those I know that use their religious beliefs to justify being pro life.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:57 am to Centinel
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The Alabama legislature says it's when a heartbeat is present.
I love Alabama, but the Alabama legislature is not where I go for my science.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:57 am to Centinel
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I'm an atheist and solidly pro-choice.
I don’t believe you.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:57 am to KG6
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I have a moral opposition to abortion. But can't quite get to the far end of it where if an egg is fertilized, end of story, no other way to look at it type of mentality.
One of Ohio’s bills being pushed through would outlaw private insurance covering anything that prevents the implantation of an egg as well with the language of “drugs or devices used to prevent implantation of a fertilized ovum”. That’s pretty much all practical use of birth control.
That’s absolutely insane. And would have a huge effect on millions of women who use birth control for verified medical reasons (i.e. anemia, endometriosis, PCOS, etc.)
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:59 am to cas4t
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There isn’t a plethora of parents adopting and if you think it’s solely due to cost you age naive. Most people want their own child with their eyes, nose, etc.
Many more couples than you realize struggle with infertility. 1 in 8 couples. Especially since many couples now wait until they are older to start families and then find out they can’t so easily. Some of them would consider adoption if they more easily could afford it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 8:59 am to cas4t
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Logical fallacy. Try again.
Answer the question. Why is murder illegal? To be more to the point, what is the justification for making murder illegal?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:02 am to lsunurse
Adoption pricing has nothing to do with abortions. It has everything to do with overhead and legal fees. None of which are related to abortion.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:02 am to BluegrassBelle
You realize the birth control pill works by making your body think you ovulated when you really don’t?
So there is no egg period.
So there is no egg period.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:02 am to lsunurse
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Many more couples than you realize struggle with infertility. 1 in 8 couples. Especially since many couples now wait until they are older to start families and then find out they can’t so easily. Some of them would consider adoption if they more easily could afford it.
Adoption reform is another cog in the wheel that would further help alleviate the need for abortions.
But once again, no one is even touching it in these state legislatures who are pushing through abortion legislation. Makes it very hard to take seriously that they actually want to improve the lives of the unborn.
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