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re: Alabama lawmakers have passed a near total ban on abortion
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:26 am to Centinel
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:26 am to Centinel
There are formal and informal logical fallacies. I can’t believe I’m debating this. I also have a 9:30 conference call so will have to come back in a couple hours.
False dilemma is another.
Either you are against abortion or you are for murder.
False dilemma is another.
Either you are against abortion or you are for murder.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:30 am to cas4t
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There are formal and informal logical fallacies. I can’t believe I’m debating this. I also have a 9:30 conference call so will have to come back in a couple hours.
How..convenient.
And not a single example of a logical fallacy posted so far.
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False dilemma is another.
Either you are against abortion or you are for murder.
Ok, but where did I say this?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:30 am to Centinel
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What's the difference?
One is an unthinking mass of cells and the other is your friend.
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The thing you and others fail to understand is the subject of abortion is not strictly a medical and/or legal one. It is mostly a moral one.
I don't fail to understand. I dispute the claims of "morality." That is why my first response was about religion, and evidence of conception being the beginning of a person. I understand what people think. But, I say it's wrong.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:32 am to Teague
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But, I say it's wrong.
And they say you're wrong.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:33 am to Centinel
Convenient? I assume you never took freshman level ethics? Or are you educated through google?
And you attempting to back me into the corner of morality fits the bill. Had I went further you’d have undoubtedly went into the continuum fallacy too.
It’s common in abortion threads.
And you attempting to back me into the corner of morality fits the bill. Had I went further you’d have undoubtedly went into the continuum fallacy too.
It’s common in abortion threads.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:33 am to East Coast Band
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there is no exception for rape or incest
Man, what the frick Alabama.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:34 am to cas4t
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Once there’s a fetal heartbeat does that mean it’s a protected life and we cannot longer deport the mother (becomes an anchor baby)?
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Muh sacred life
I don’t understand what this has to do with believing in the intrinsic value of human life. Just because you’re not a citizen doesn’t mean you’re not human.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:35 am to cas4t
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And you attempting to back me into the corner of morality fits the bill
How is this a logical fallacy?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:35 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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The hope of making it to SCOTUS is likely one of the reasons that there are not exceptions for rape and incest.
So in the meantime, teenagers raped by their fathers are shite out of luck!
Way to prove a point Alabama!
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:36 am to TheCaterpillar
I think there should be such an exception, but realistically what percentage of abortions are due to rape or incest?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:36 am to Centinel
Dude I’m not explaining individual logical fallacies to you. I’ve listed the 2 that typically fall in these conversations and you unknowingly attempted to back me into. I encourage you to google those 2 (or 3, including the informal fallacy) and read for yourself.
I’ll be back in a bit
I’ll be back in a bit
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:37 am to Centinel
Formal and informal fallacies exist. This isn’t math, it’s ethics. Christ.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:40 am to cas4t
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I’ve listed the 2 that typically fall in these conversations and you unknowingly attempted to back me into.
Ok so now it's I'm "unknowingly attempting" to back you in to a logical fallacy?
Seriously, do you read what you type?
I mean it should be pretty simple if I've made all these logical fallacies to point out my specific words and then say which logical fallacy I made with those words.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:42 am to Damone
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I think there should be such an exception, but realistically what percentage of abortions are due to rape or incest?
1 to 2% according to the people in this thread.
If there is just 1 pregnancy due to rape, the exception should be in there. Forcing a woman to carry that is horrific.
I am all about prohibiting late term abortions where the fetus could survive outside the womb. But if a woman is raped and pregnant from the rape and it is relatively early in the pregnancy, then they absolutely should be allowed to terminate it.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:46 am to TheCaterpillar
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If there is just 1 pregnancy due to rape, the exception should be in there. Forcing a woman to carry that is horrific.
And the vast majority of people that are against abortion would agree with you in this case.
Which shows the Alabama bill was crafted specifically to be challenged in court in the hopes of a Roe v. Wade overturn.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:47 am to TheCaterpillar
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This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 9:04 am
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:55 am to Centinel
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And the vast majority of people that are against abortion would agree with you in this case.
Which shows the Alabama bill was crafted specifically to be challenged in court in the hopes of a Roe v. Wade overturn.
Great.
So they're forcing rape victims in Alabama to carry the rapist child to term just to accomplish another agenda.
Also, let's say this goes to the Supreme Court and the court sides with Alabama. Are you saying they'll then retroactively repeal the rape and incest portions?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:58 am to TheCaterpillar
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Also, let's say this goes to the Supreme Court and the court sides with Alabama. Are you saying they'll then retroactively repeal the rape and incest portions?
No clue. It's the Alabama government after all.
However, the intent seems to be to overturn Roe v. Wade in such a way that abortion law is left to the states (not that there aren't people pushing for a nation-wide ban, but the politicians know that will never fly).
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:59 am to cahoots
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What's crazy is that some people would support the death penalty for the rapist but also want to forbid the abortion in cases of rape.
"Some" people don't get bills passed. That's why there is an exception in the bill for rape.
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