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Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:21 pm to Darth_Vader
Don't you dare call me a biker.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:24 pm to Rebelgator
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Don't you dare call me a biker
You're more like a peanut in a biker's turd.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Clearly they didn't resurrect your wit.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:29 pm to Rebelgator
Every traffic stop I've ever been a part of and/or witnessed. I just assumed it was part of their training.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:32 pm to Pecker
quote:He was barking out orders simultaneously with the man exiting. If I am hanging out on the side of the road after a minor accident I am not prepared to get drawn down on by an officer that has come in hot.
Well the officer was barking out orders as if this was not a typical fender bender. Or do we disagree on that point?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:34 pm to NYNolaguy1
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DA is the only side presenting whatever evidence he wants to. He could have witheld the videotape and no one would have known.
i guess this could be true i really don't know
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And I am guessing after getting the case dismissed, it was appealed to the CoA, where it lost again.
i sure as hell hope not because the one thing this guy probably wants more than the cop losing his job or getting jail is being compensated
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:35 pm to meauxjeaux2
If you search "Phillip Hancock" on Facebook you'll find one in Smiths Station, Alabama. That's in Lee County, where this shooting took place. Judging from the pictures the cop is an Auburn fan.
Another article about the incident
Another article about the incident
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:36 pm to tigerfoot
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Well the officer was barking out orders as if this was not a typical fender bender. Or do we disagree on that point
Why is he barking out orders? If he is so concerned for his safety, why is he allowing the truck driver to advance on him?
This was a simple fender bender where somehow a man was shot, that is ridiculous!
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:37 pm to Aubie Spr96
When you have little to no recourse for bad decisions and questionable behavior you will see said things continue to rise. That is a economic fact. Because cops get little to know punishment for things like this they will continue to do them and claim fear. If civilians were allowed to sue them for their pension you'd see shite like this decline tremendously.
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:37 pm to meauxjeaux2
Wow, just terrible. #heroes
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:42 pm to meauxjeaux2
Both of the following groups are wrong:
1) People who continue to use rare examples of inappropriate use of force to make generalizations about all cops.
2) People who defend cops in nearly every situation.
Cops are what they are - a very necessary group of lower educated people who have the difficult and important job of keeping the peace, but who also tend make some very dumb and deadly mistakes. There are also a very low percentage of truly malicious and racist police officers.
There is plenty of blame to go around and constant cop bashing is not helping the situation, with more and more cops dropping out of the force and more and more police departments becoming timid and impotent.
1) People who continue to use rare examples of inappropriate use of force to make generalizations about all cops.
2) People who defend cops in nearly every situation.
Cops are what they are - a very necessary group of lower educated people who have the difficult and important job of keeping the peace, but who also tend make some very dumb and deadly mistakes. There are also a very low percentage of truly malicious and racist police officers.
There is plenty of blame to go around and constant cop bashing is not helping the situation, with more and more cops dropping out of the force and more and more police departments becoming timid and impotent.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:44 pm to Aubie Spr96
No.
Again, I really don't believe you.
Again, I really don't believe you.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:44 pm to Pecker
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I said from the beginning he should have stayed in the car.
The average person does not interact with cops on a regular basis. Plus, a lot of people are big fans of cops ("back the blue" shite everywhere) and have never even considered being fearful of them. Especially in the south where you see tons of cop supporters. You can't expect Karen, with 3 kids and an SUV with a Back the Blue sticker to heed your advice of treating cops like idiots with a gun, because she probably doesn't see cops as idiots with a gun. The average person would think nothing of hopping out of their car when the cop they called for an accident finally arrives. That is reasonable thing to do.
You may personally behave as if all cops are idiots and can shoot you at any time, and that may be smart of you to do, but the average person does not - nor should they have to.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:49 pm to Blob Fish
quote:Stop hiring the bottom of the barrel to be cops
Cops are what they are - a very necessary group of lower educated people who have the difficult and important job of keeping the peace, but who also tend make some very dumb and deadly mistakes.
quote:Bull fricking shite. I live in Alabama so I know that isn't true. Low percentage is laughable.
There are also a very low percentage of truly malicious and racist police officers.
quote:Alot of what we see now is the effects on a very bad, failed war on drugs policy. Over policing the lower income areas just to make petty drug busts are a waste of time and tax payer dollars. Through these interactions it has cause more racial strain on both sides. Alot of what we see now could have been avoided decades ago.
There is plenty of blame to go around and constant cop bashing is not helping the situation, with more and more cops dropping out of the force and more and more police departments becoming timid and impotent.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:53 pm to Topwater Trout
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i sure as hell hope not because the one thing this guy probably wants more than the cop losing his job or getting jail is being compensated
I said this earlier but this is a long thread...This was 3 years ago and the video was just released. The cop is not going to lose his job. Victim ordered to pay court costs.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:55 pm to SaintBrees
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but the average person does not
Typically speaking I try and avoid what the average person does.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:56 pm to OKellsBells
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The cop is not going to lose his job
probably not...hopefully at least reassigned to desk job
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Victim ordered to pay court costs.
With all the frivolous lawsuits that get huge rewards I will really be pissed if this guy isn't compensated
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:02 pm to Topwater Trout
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The U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Alabama Eastern Division, which issued the original decision on the lawsuit in December 2016, also ordered Davidson at the time to pay $15,354.82 for legal costs to the city of Opelika, Hancock and McEachern.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:03 pm to Pecker
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This is a good argument. Why do you think a judge justified the shooting then?
Simple answer? Judge hooked him up. I'm not like that idiot tangerine, who thinks every facet of law enforcement is corrupt, but with the facts presented, hard not to come to that conclusion.
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