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re: Air Products announces fund to benefit Lake Maurepas communities

Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:45 am to
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:45 am to
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What happens when the carbon dioxide seeps up into everyone’s homes and we all die as if we had idled our cars in the garage?

The morticians will make bank as part of this new booming industry in Louisiana.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119472 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:46 am to
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What happens when the carbon dioxide seeps up into everyone’s homes and we all die as if we had idled our cars in the garage?


This will not happen at from the bottom of the wells (~10,000 feet and deeper). The biggest risk is casing failure near the surface. That is where the risk of CO2 coming to the surface is a the biggest risk. But that goes for all wells.

With that said, your analogy is a little off but not completely. You die of carbon monoxide in your analogy and not carbon dioxide. Carbon monoxide is poisonous. However you can die from carbon dioxide from oxygen displacement, i.e., hypoxia.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 8:57 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119472 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:49 am to
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You'd think that Louisiana might get a leg up on other states since we're letting all these drilling/fracking/CO2 emission projects drag their nuts all over our faces.
but no. We'll just stay back here in our cancer rut, waiting for the day the doc gives you the big news.


Drilling wells, making H2 from CH2 and putting CO2 in the ground does not give you cancer.

That ethanol you drink frequently will give you cancer WAY before anything associated with this project.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21618 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:49 am to
I’m pretty sure Meaux was intentionally mixing up the molecules for laughs.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119472 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:50 am to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21618 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:54 am to
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There’s no putting the genie back in the bottle on this.


Yeah…I don’t think there is either, unless governments scale back the emissions restrictions and yank the 45Q and CARB credits.

I am VERY curious to see how newly elected Governor Landry will wade through this. There is a pretty significant, and very vocal, part of his base that just screams “green new deal” and “Biden killing Louisiana industry” when they hear the words “Carbon capture”.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45335 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:04 am to
They lost the local representative they were backing. Had a big dollar fund raiser in Baton Rouge for a Ponchatoula politician and also trashed his opponent with lies they sent out in the mail and he still got his arse kicked. F### air products
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
5593 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:05 am to
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we're letting all these drilling/fracking/CO2 emission projects drag their nuts all over our faces.


For a hundred years these companies have been pumping and dumping their shite in our water and air, but carbon capture is the thing that turns everyone here an environmentalist.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38704 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:11 am to
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am VERY curious to see how newly elected Governor Landry will wade through this. There is a pretty significant, and very vocal, part of his base that just screams “green new deal” and “Biden killing Louisiana industry” when they hear the words “Carbon capture”.


If I had to wager it would be on Louisiana once again missing out and allowing revenue generating industry to move to another state.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 9:17 am
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26178 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:15 am to
Really generous offer they are making here. $1 million a year to benefit the Lake Maurepas communities while they make $250 million a year in profit from this. Gee thanks!
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2017
1377 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:18 am to
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They lost the local representative they were backing. Had a big dollar fund raiser in Baton Rouge for a Ponchatoula politician and also trashed his opponent with lies they sent out in the mail and he still got his arse kicked. F### air products


This. Air Products discussed the how safe this injection project is and used the "trust the science" mantra at public hearings, but what they themselves apparently trust is the old school La. Lobbyist's handbook.

Only regret I have but one upvote to give you, PT.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:18 am to
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They lost the local representative they were backing. Had a big dollar fund raiser in Baton Rouge for a Ponchatoula politician and also trashed his opponent with lies they sent out in the mail and he still got his arse kicked. F### air products


I was getting at least two to three flyers a day for about a few weeks leading up to the election for that guy. He even canvassed my neighborhood with a fake grin and gave me an even faker "thank you for your service".

Yeah, they were trying way too hard to sully the name of a local councilwoman who actually did her job while on the council.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3185 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:21 am to
CO2 is such a TINY fraction of total greenhouse gases, and human-linked CO2 is again a TINY fraction of CO2.

It’s all one big damned SCAM.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7647 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:23 am to
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What happens when the carbon dioxide seeps up into everyone’s homes and we all die as if we had idled our cars in the garage?


Do you have natural gas seeping up now? These types of responses are stupid. They are drilling several miles deep. MILES. It's not like someone is going to dutch oven your community with fart gas. Deep injection wells have been around for a long long time.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2619 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:31 am to
It is not how deep the storage is(11miles).. it is the pathway and containment …

Lots of points of failure along those and opportunities for poor engineering and maintenance decisions..

BP can write a book on this from oil wells to plant facilities.. and they had a lot of industry experience on the proper management yet mistakes still happen..

you only need one minor mistake to snowball into something catastrophic. Resulting in a forever change in the lifecycle at the surface for the environment and people.

I would not want this project in my area.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7647 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:32 am to
I'm against this whole capture & sequestration thing because its a tax dollar driven money grab created by the government and they're giving away our borrowed tax debt to eager businessmen that see the opportunity to make free cash off of a waste product they were going to throw away to begin with and otherwise get fined by the government for creating. I'm not against this whole thing because because of the injection wells themselves. People that think this is the one thing that will kill the Maurepas swamp are stupid. frick the government creating this corrupt circle jerk, not the engineers trying to capitalize on it.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9776 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:40 am to
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The fund will award grants to eligible nonprofits supporting ecological, educational and recreational improvements for the area.


So no one in lake Maurepas will benefit while politicians & their NGO buddies will enjoy campaign donations.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80856 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:41 am to
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Drilling wells, making H2 from CH2 and putting CO2 in the ground does not give you cancer.

Don't tell the sky screamers that. They don't want to hear it
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80856 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:42 am to
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For a hundred years these companies have been pumping and dumping their shite in our water and air, but carbon capture is the thing that turns everyone here an environmentalist.

Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80856 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:43 am to
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Really generous offer they are making here. $1 million a year to benefit the Lake Maurepas communities while they make $250 million a year in profit from this. Gee thanks!

To be fair, they don't have to offer you all shite and the project will still happen
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