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re: AI Error Throws Innocent Tennessee Grandmother in North Dakota Jail for Nearly Six Months

Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:46 am to
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26445 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 5:46 am to
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@grok is this real



Chicken needs an AI tool on here... we could call it Baw.


@Baw is this real?
Posted by Abadeebadaba
FL
Member since Sep 2010
5037 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:48 am to
I think before the taxpayers have to pay anything out, the pensions of the people involved need to be drained.
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1375 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:54 am to
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compair
This is a first for me
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23793 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 6:59 am to
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Angela Lipps


Sister to Lisa?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156632 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:03 am to
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Where were her family and friends all this time?

That's what I was wondering as well...how does nobody help her out over the course of FIVE frickING MONTHS as she sits in jail?

There are so many things that just seem ridiculously stupid that it makes this whole thing seem overly fake. But I guess we shouldn't ever underestimate the justice system's intelligence and efficiency.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15663 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:10 am to
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Adding insult to injury, the Fargo police didn’t pick up Lipps from her Tennessee jail until 108 days after her arrest
Why did it take Fargo over 3 months to pick her up? You would think Tennessee wouldn’t be happy picking up the cost to detain her for that long.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6392 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 7:15 am to
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Why did it take Fargo over 3 months to pick her up? You would think Tennessee wouldn’t be happy picking up the cost to detain her for that long.


I think the way it works is Fargo paid the TN jail to keep her.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33703 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:13 am to
Her lawyer needs to sue everything involved...

From the AI company to the Fargo police, the judge who signed off on it, to the Tennessee police...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35553 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:18 am to
Sadly, this could only happen to a poor person.

I would've been out of jail in 10 minutes, but likely never would've even been arrested.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:23 am to
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Her lawyer needs to sue everything involved...

From the AI company to the Fargo police, the judge who signed off on it, to the Tennessee police...
100%

Go scorched earth.
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5438 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:25 am to
We need to pull the plug on AI
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:25 am to
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First, Lipps was booked in a Tennessee county jail as a fugitive from justice from North Dakota. And because she was considered a fugitive, she was held without bail and sat in the jail for nearly four initial months.

This seems crazy. What the hell is wrong with Tennessee's extradition laws?

It's 30 days here, typically. I think Texas may be 10.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10401 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:09 am to
The Minority Report is going to come to fruition. Soon people will be flagged by AI for thinking about committing a crime and serve time for thought crime. 1984 bitches
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
3864 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:12 am to
Too bad she wasn't an illegal that raped or murdered someone in a blue city. She would have never been bothered by law enforcement.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5640 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:20 am to
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From the AI company to the Fargo police, the judge who signed off on it, to the Tennessee police...



You'd think that the Tennessee police would demand a higher bar for evidence before taking one of their citizens custody on behalf of another state. Guess that's asking to much of the mongoloids that hold these positions.

I hope she gets $100 million from all of them.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7848 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:47 am to
Fargo Police Chief speaks on the situation:

https://www.wdayradionow.com/news/local-news/first-on-flag-family-chief-zibolski-believes-no-mistakes-were-made-in-the-angela-lipps-investigation/

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FARGO, N.D. – Despite charges being dropped by the Cass County State’s Attorney’s Office, Fargo Police Chief David Zibolski said in an exclusive interview with Flag Family Media he doesn’t know definitively what, if any, involvement Angela Lipps had in a Fargo bank fraud investigation.

The department used facial recognition as part of its investigation to allege Lipps committed the crime. She said she’s never been to North Dakota.

“This wasn’t on anyone’s radar until the last week-and-a-half, two weeks. I had no knowledge of this whatsoever that this occurred. As soon as we got the first couple of inquiries, I sent it to our investigative unit captain for response. As would be our typical response, it’s an ongoing investigation and we can’t talk about it,” Zibolski said.

The charges against Lipps were dismissed without prejudice meaning they could be refiled against her in the future. Zibolski said Fargo Police continues its investigation into the case.

“We take constitutional rights and due process of our community members very seriously,” Zibolski said.

Chief Zibolski tried to clear up questions from the community in this case regarding why Lipps was in jail for so long before being interviewed by detectives and why she left the Cass County Jail without winter clothing.

Zibolski said Lipps was arrested on July 14, 2025 and she also was held on a local charge unrelated to the Fargo case. He added the Cass County State’s Attorney’s Office was notified she would be extradited to North Dakota on October 20. Ten days later, Lipps was booked into the Cass County Jail.

Zibolski pointed out when someone is booked, jail staff reach out to the State’s Attorney’s Office and not the investigating law enforcement agency.

Zibolski said the first time his department was told Lipps was in jail was December 5. Her attorney told Fargo Police one week later he had evidence he believed showed she wasn’t involved in the crime and arranged a police interview with his client.

On December 23, charges were dropped and Lipps was released the next day. Zibolski said a detective tried to arrange her a ride home and offered money for a hotel room, but Lipps refused. Zibolski said this suggested she already had a ride.

Zibolski talked with Cass County Jail Captain Andy Frobig who said Lipps didn’t make a request for winter clothing which is available to people released from jail.

“We’ll be discussing communication with Cass County and the State’s Attorney about issues like this going forward to see if there’s a better way to create notification that we’re at least aware that someone was in custody,” Zibolski explained.

Chief Zibolski said artificial intelligence was used in the Lipps investigation, but other steps to find evidence were taken before bringing the case to the State’s Attorney’s Office. The chief didn’t say what that could be citing the active investigation. He said he doesn’t believe mistakes were made by his department in the case.

“That information requires additional investigative steps. That’s really best practice. I can’t just rely on that solely and that wasn’t the sole reason in which this case was put together,” Zibolski said in regards to his department using artificial intelligence.

Flag Family News reached out to Cass County State’s Attorney Kim Hegvik asking why her office believed Lipps should be charged with bank fraud-related crimes and if she signed off on those charges being filed against her. We received an automated message saying she was out of the office. Flag Family News called the Cass County State’s Attorney’s Office to see if anyone else could respond to our questions, but we were told to wait for Hegvik to respond to our email.

Last week, Flag Family News emailed Hegvik asking why Lipps was charged with some of the main evidence being facial recognition despite her never being in North Dakota. We never received a response.

Zibolski was asked if he would like to offer Lipps and apology.

“We don’t want to see anyone improperly arrested or detained although that does happen in our criminal justice system and sometimes things like this occur. The investigation is still open and we do not know definitively what, if any, her level of involvement is,” Zibolski said in response.

The Fargo City Commission met in executive session on Monday, March 16 to receive advice from the city attorney on possible civil or criminal litigation involving the Lipps investigation.

Chief Zibolski said the Lipps case wasn’t a reason he announced his retirement last week.

“I had been planning this as I said at the press conference in discussions with my family for some time,” Zibolski explained.

Zibolski’s last day with the department is Friday, March 27.
Posted by Keith13
Member since Apr 2024
454 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 12:11 pm to
Sympathetic local defense attorneys pooled together money to pay for a hotel room

Yeah ok sure. im sure they are working out of the goodness of their hearts
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12692 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 12:37 pm to
Hell, I’d give money to her if that story is remotely accurate


I saw a video the other day of an officer alleging a guy must be carrying fake ID etc… because a casino facial recognition picked him up as being trespassed. Just refusing to believe AI could be wrong and putting full faith in it over every bit of common sense. If I recall the ID in his wallet not only matched everything else he had but also I think the trespassed guy was noticeably taller/shorter but I don’t 100% have the details at my fingertips

Real Michael Scott driving into the lake because gps said so vibes
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 12:42 pm
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
Below I-10
Member since Jul 2019
4115 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 12:51 pm to
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50-year-old Angela Lipps spent nearly six months in the clink after Fargo cops using an AI facial recognition tool flagged her as a suspect in a bank fraud case in the state.


Where was her family in all this? 6 months?

Posted by PhillyTiger90
Not Phillytiger9
Member since Dec 2015
11861 posts
Posted on 3/17/26 at 1:03 pm to
Good God

Her 5 grand kids won’t have to work a day in their lives
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