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Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:53 am to Rex
If I have to sit around all day with a bunch of jerkoffs that I don't even know while I get paid $10/day I'm probably gonna vote however I have to in order to GTFO of there.
"So we going guilty here? Sounds good to me."
"So we going guilty here? Sounds good to me."
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:53 am to Rex
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I think I would prefer a panel of professional judges system such as employed by Japan.
I don't know much about Japan's system but there seems to be flaws with that system too. Giving power to a set of "professional judges" increases the corruptibility to the jury. Either way, no system is fool proof, incorruptible, honest, or perfect.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:54 am to PearlJam
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No. However, the other options seem so set up for corruption or centralizing power too much.
Yes, that's the flip side.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:54 am to athenslife101
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If your innocent, you want a trial by judge. If your guilty, you want a trial by jury.
did that lawyer also not know that "you are" is contracted to "you're?"
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:55 am to terd ferguson
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If I have to sit around all day with a bunch of jerkoffs that I don't even know while I get paid $10/day I'm probably gonna vote however I have to in order to GTFO of there.
"So we going guilty here? Sounds good to me."
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:55 am to danilo
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West Memphis Three
I watched Paradise Lost the first part for the first time last night. I never really followed the story so not sure how it ends with the 2nd and 3rd but just wanted to say this guy took the wrong career path, he could have been a great WWF wrestler. Dude cuts a mean promo.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:55 am to Rex
Doesn't matter. The system is what it is.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:55 am to Rex
I was on a murder jury here in New Orleans a couple months ago.
I was pleasantly surprised by the intelligence, accomplishments, and seriousness the other jurors displayed.
The only real problem came about some legal terms and such, but that should be expected out of people who didn't attend law school.
I was pleasantly surprised by the intelligence, accomplishments, and seriousness the other jurors displayed.
The only real problem came about some legal terms and such, but that should be expected out of people who didn't attend law school.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:56 am to MSMHater
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No, but it's the lesser evil. A consistent panel of judges will undoubtedly (over time) develop its own ideology and biases, and how would the logitics of that even work considering the case volume in this country.
Then again, it's the traditional system of justice in Japan, for instance, and I never see too much written about the injustices rendered there. But I don't live in Japan so am likely missing much.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:56 am to ThatMakesSense
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You watched a slanted documentary
Most documentaries are inherently biased. This isn't a problem.
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devised by two lesbians
Oh clearly this matters. That makes sense.
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and are now fancying yourself as some judicial heavyweight?
He's asked one question. Conclusion may have been jumped to in asking it, but where did he claim this?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:57 am to DeathValley85
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My guess is with your reputation you weren't the right person to start this thread.
My reputation is one of sheer genius.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:59 am to Rex
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is our population bright enough, attentive enough, and unbiased enough to fairly conduct a "jury of our peers" system of justice?
The OJ Simpson trial, the Casey Anthony trial, and now the Steven Avery trial lead me to a sad conclusion: no, it is not.
I think I would prefer a panel of professional judges system such as employed by Japan.
And thanks in advance for accepting my two cents.
Tell you what, let me recount a story for you about judges.
About 10 years ago a friend of mine met this girl and they got serious. After a few months of dating she moved in with him. Fast forward about 6 months and he comes home and finds some meth wrapped up in aluminum foil in a drawer in his bathroom. He confronts her about it and throws her out. Fast forward another two weeks and he comes home to find a county deputy waiting there for him to arrest him for domestic violence. He goes before a local judge for a non-jury hearing on the matter. The only evidence against him is her word and one Polaroid picture of a small bruise on someone's back. There's nothing on the picture to identify when it was taken ,who is in the picture, or what caused the bruise. The bruise itself was about the size of a quarter BTW and looked nothing like a bruise caused by someone punching you. For the defense my friend had a line of witnesses stating they'd never seen or heard of him being violent or even raising his voice at her. Among the defense witnesses was her own sister. The judge took all of 10 minutes to find him guilty of domestic abuse. Thankfully the guy appealed and got the conviction overturned. But the whole ordeal lasted months and cost him thousands of dollars. Lesson to take from this, judges oftentimes are as bad or worse than juries.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:00 am to Rex
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My reputation is one of sheer genius.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:00 am to Rex
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My reputation is one of sheer genius
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:05 am to Rex
quote:crime statistics and various other aspects in Japan are highly manipulated. I wouldnt trust it over our system
I never see too much written about the injustices rendered there.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:06 am to Pilot Tiger
let me say that anyone who values judges too highly needs to read up on some divorce advocacy
horror stories of judges early and often
horror stories of judges early and often
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:06 am to Rex
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I've done nothing criminal, but it scares me that this country with its large percentage of science-deniers and superstition-abiders would think itself analytical enough to render sound judgments.
Agree, hell you could end up with people who think Miami is going to be under water this decade, or those who think safe spaces are a thing.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:07 am to Rex
It's "Making a Murderer" you dolt
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:08 am to Darth_Vader
The same professional judges that let child rapists off with less jail time than someone busted with a bag of weed?
The same judges who go on public sports message boards and drop personal details about individuals and cases involved in their court room?
The same judges who go on public sports message boards and drop personal details about individuals and cases involved in their court room?
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