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re: Advice on Buying a Car to Fix Up as a Hobby?

Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:37 am to
Either a Mopar or Chevrlle.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20718 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:41 am to
69 charger
70 cuda
Box style Chevy truck
Some of my preferences.


Guy from my former city has a building full of old 60 and 70’s cars. Really nice and in mint condition. He died 2 years ago and now his brother has them. I’d love to have them.

My neighbor has

70 charger all original
67 nova wagon
68 corvette
34 truck (can’t remenber make
80’s box style Chevy
Early 50’s truck he is rebuilding
And a few more

In fact I have several neighbors here that have lots of older cars. I think it’s a requirement that if you’re over 50 and live here you have to have at least 1.

If I had the $$$$$ and time I’d spend it doing this.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69082 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:43 am to
I bought a caddy two years ago. Pumped a lot into it then hot a wall and want to do something else.
Make sure the project you get is something you really want.

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25631 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:48 am to
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E30 325is. Build something that will actually drive worth a shite.


If someone is going to restore/restomod a BMW an E36 M3 would be the place to start. I would do a Euro S50 conversion.

That said having spent a good bit of time wrenching on my E36 and E46 track cars they are a magnitude greater complexity than a 1960s muscle car. The average hobbyists can get neck deep in an old Mustang (I built my first small black Ford engine at 16 with nothing more than a Chilton SBF book) but doing a BMW for most people means farming out most of the work.
Posted by pizzatiger
Member since Apr 2019
274 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:48 am to
quote:

E30 325is. Build something that will actually drive worth a shite.



probably unpopular opinion here, but I agree

90s cars have much better handling, good power, and the tech isn't too cumbersome. Lots of aftermarket parts too.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25631 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 7:56 am to
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My plan is a 351W/TKO600 as of now.


I have thought about a FF 65 coupe many times.

Just curious are you thinking a crate 351 or something else?
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8966 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:07 am to
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Advice on Buying a Car to Fix Up as a Hobby?



Anything that has a sbc350 in it is a great place to start.

Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58342 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:08 am to
My advice is spend the extra money now for a working weekend vehicle.

If you must fix it up, double your budget on time and money each, and you might come in under that.





In hindsight, I when I bought my CJ5 I should’ve just paid extra for one already done like I wanted rather than trying to get it right myself.
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4776 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:13 am to
I have a ‘67 Mustang and I’d echo the point about the advantage of parts. I have had other vintage cars and it’s an unpleasant scavenger hunt. With this one I could build an entire car from catalogs of multiple vendors.

The only thing you should gauge is whether or not you have enough mechanical ability to do everything yourself, because it is getting harder and harder to find people still working who are familiar with these cars. Yes, they are simple enough that any competent mechanic can figure them out, but it’s still better to know of someone who knows about the glitches and gremlins.

For instance, fuel injection replaced carburetors in the 80s, and a finicky carburetor is in some form the manifestation of the devil. It’s good to have somebody who knows these things.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25631 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:24 am to
quote:

90s cars have much better handling, good power,


If you have the will and the money particularly 60s Mustangs, Camaros and Corvettes can go a long way to matching and beating a E36 BMW outside of the obvious advantage in power.

For a 67-68 Mustang go with an all aluminum engine, aluminum flywheel, Tremec TKO, Coleman full floater rear housing with a 9" Strange pumpkin, 3.50-3.75 gears with a Detroit locker.

You can do miracles with suspension:

Stock upper A arms Modified to roller bearing inner shafts and pro motorsport negative wedge balljoints. Shelby 1" relocation of mounting point
1970 Mustang spindles
Global west lower arms
QA 1 Aluminum double adjustable coil over shocks mounted to the lower control arm
475lb springs
1 1/8 front sway bar
Flaming River rack and pinion
BBK (Wilwood and others make 6 piston/13-14" rotor setups).
Cobra Automotive road race rear springs with slider box rear mount.
All Star 3rd link spring snubbed QA 1 90 10 brake snubbing shock
Koni adjustable rear shocks

With that setup, you could shave seconds off the lap times of even a turboed E36 Lightweight. The only negative with the Mustang would be a greater propensity to understeer unless you flare the wheel wells to put more meat on the front.

Now the OP obviously isn't planning to go this deep but I was just showing that a 60s car doesn't have to handle and stop like a 60s car if you don't want it to.

This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 8:25 am
Posted by IH8ThreePutts
Member since Mar 2018
1441 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:30 am to
A Jeep or Early Bronco would be a great project. Plenty of aftermarket support and you’d have a convertible to drive on the weekends.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25631 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:34 am to
You and your 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 bias.

Branch out the water is just fine in the 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 or 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8 pool.

Now if he wants to own the local strip then OK mouse or rat it is then we can start discussing Procharger, Whipple, Vortech, roots, or single/dual turbo.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2132 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:38 am to
If you've never done anything like this I'd tell you to start with something simple and unique. Try restoring an old army jeep. They aren't that expensive. They are easy to work on. They are really simple. There are still tons of New Old Stock parts out there for pretty cheap.

It will be a hit at the car shows too. There are a couple of generations to choose from also.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21923 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:45 am to
I'm thinking hard of buying a early 70's VW Beetle with a Dune Buggy body kit already on it. One of the ones the Shriners ride in the parade but I have no desire to ever ride in a parade. Just to ride around on the weekends, maybe take out on poker run. Just a fun little car to drive. I'm going look at it Wed.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3131 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:47 am to
What is your starting point here?

If you have a stable of automotive tools, an engine hoist, and good mechanical knowledge you can probably start from scratch on a rebuild, though still risky if it's your first go-round.

If you have no experience, I would strongly recommend you don't push a rolling chassis '65 Stang into your garage. It's going to sit there for 3 years and then you'll sell it for less than ya' bought it. At the very least, buy something that is in running/driving condition (or as close as possible) so you can enjoy it while you restore it. You also want a vehicle that is easy to work on. If it were me, I'd dip my toes in with something like a first gen Miata. Simple car, cheap and easy to work on, parts readily available.

That will give you time to build up a toolbox and learn the skills while still enjoying your project. Commit yourself to pulling the engine and transmission at least once, even if it really doesn't need it. Much better to screw that up/fight/learn with a Miata 4 banger than a chevy crate. Then once you're confident enough, sell it for your real project.

Make sure you have some buddies that know what they're doing, and beer to bribe them with.

Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10487 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:53 am to
I bought something for my young son and I to redo. I drove it for a while and then thought I would do a few upgrades to it. Before I knew it, the thing was in a million pieces. Its on it way back together, but will take me two more years to finish. If you are in a hurry, don't bother,it will piss you off how slow it can go when trying to do this stuff at the house with limited everything, including knowledge. I'am not pissed off, but it is taking a long time to finish. Also,This is a real thing on my bucket list to do a frame off on a car. One and only I will ever do. My son has learned so much, it is well worth it.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10362 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:55 am to
I didn't read your post, but my advice after having a 66 mustang and a 69 Torino is to just buy one already done. Or at least the interior and exterior done, engine and transmission stuff isn't that difficult but the interior stuff is stupid. You will end up saving a ton of money and headache.
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10487 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:58 am to
A few pics
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Mandeville.La
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:00 am to
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