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re: Adopting Rescues vs Buying from a Breeder

Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:45 pm to
Assuming you did not solicit the breeding (like commissioning an artwork)...isn't THAT puppy now needing and deserving of a good home?

Is it better to let THAT puppy have a shite home, have it taken to a shelter, and THEN you "adopt it"?


I'm just wondering if there is a "moral" difference. The puppy now lives. So, now what?
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:55 pm to
There are several websites and apps that aggregate a bunch of rescue orgs and you will definitely find many puppies on there. However, they may not have the exact breed you want

I want a cheagle and there are some but I’m not gonna drive 250 miles to get it
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 2:57 pm to
I had to google cheagle.... cute pups.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:00 pm to
I like the best of both options. The last two dogs I've had have been from owners who could no longer keep them. That way I can pick the breed and "rescue" the dog before it ends up in the pound. I got my current dog from a military family. The search for the right dog takes longer, but it is worth it.

And FWIW, the dog adoption process can be very extensive and a pain in the arse.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:01 pm to
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What [unselfish] reasons would anyone have to go through a breeder?


There are 0.

You can even go to breed specific rescues and get full breds that were given up by selfish people who weren't ready to have a dog or just didn't want to deal with it.
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:09 pm to
Because i fricking want to and don't give a shite about your opinion. I want the dog that I want, not what happens to be available at the pound. Did you buy a specific car the last time you went car shopping or did you just say "I'll just take whatever you got."

I am all for people adopting dogs, and not saying that I wont adopt a dog in the future, but I am fricking sick of people giving me shite because I bought a nice hunting dog from a highly respected breeder. Mind your own fricking business and leave me the frick alone.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:10 pm to
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What [unselfish] reasons would anyone have to go through a breeder?


So they can get an inbred, retarded dog with Champion blood lines.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Did you buy a specific car the last time you went car shopping or did you just say "I'll just take whatever you got."


The car isn't a living creature. One that a ton of people buy and then abandon because it's more work than they thought. One that was bred for money then gets killed if no one else wants him.

quote:


I am all for people adopting dogs, and not saying that I wont adopt a dog in the future, but I am fricking sick of people giving me shite because I bought a nice hunting dog from a highly respected breeder. Mind your own fricking business and leave me the frick alone.


Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39949 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

You're not only saving the life of an animal, but you are making an effort to break the cycle of overpopulation & decreasing the amount of animal cruelty. 8-12 million pets are euthanized each year because so many would rather go to an over-priced breeder or puppy mill.


Don’t care.



We went to a breeder because my son has serious allergies to pet dander and we wanted a hypo allergenic dog. Going to a breeder guaranteed us getting one.
Posted by Kjun Tiger
Member since Dec 2014
2147 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:22 pm to
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8-12 million pets are euthanized each year because so many would rather go to an over-priced breeder or puppy mill.


Just say "Post Birth Abortion" instead of "Euthanize" and watch the Leftists suddenly support killing 8-12 million Animal Fetuses!
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:25 pm to
You can’t get health guarantees from a rescue nor can you see OFA certifications of hips/elbows.

So like the poster above mentioned, you buy from a breeder bc of genetics and the blood lines. Paying big bucks up front for quality genetics will likely benefit yourself from not having to pay huge vet bills later in life from poor genetics.

If this isn’t a concern to you then yes I completely agree you should adopt.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39949 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:25 pm to
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Using a hasty generalization still doesn't make this applicable


Kinda like saying any mut can be bred to be as good a retriever as a b or golden right?
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Just say "Post Birth Abortion" instead of "Euthanize" and watch the Leftists suddenly support killing 8-12 million Animal Fetuses!




#hesrightyouknow
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
29222 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

So like the poster above mentioned, you buy from a breeder bc of genetics and the blood lines. Paying big bucks up front for quality genetics will likely benefit yourself from not having to pay huge vet bills later in life from poor genetics.


a lot of the problems in dog breeds are because of inbreeding by breeders. It's in the breeds DNA, it doesn't just disappear, because you paid $800 for a dog.

Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15243 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:34 pm to
had friend who just adopted and fees were over $300 to start. Many adoptees have health issues such as heart worms and then there is the neutering.

Some agencies kick in some of the money, some vets provide discounted services.

Adopting has lots of pieces to the puzzle.

Puppies go quick adults dogs with health or behavior issues go slowly

Posted by lsujag
Member since Jan 2012
2732 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:34 pm to
I’ve done both. I don’t support the puppy mills but a responsible breeder is just fine. I have a breeder that I’ll buy English Bulldogs from and I’ve rescued two also. It just depends on your situation. If you find a dog you like, go for it.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4814 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:36 pm to
It does when you pay for the pedigree and know what you’re buying. The inbreeding coefficient on my Shepherd is 0.2%.

But I do agree that’s where the issues are coming from, and if you’re breeding dogs or looking to purchase from a breeder then you should be responsible enough to know not to contribute to a problem.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32918 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:38 pm to
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The inbreeding coefficient on my Shepherd is 0.2%.

So lower than the average bammer?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39949 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:40 pm to
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So lower than the average bammer


By two orders of magnitude.
Posted by LPgolfer
Member since Jul 2015
1013 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 3:40 pm to
Adopted a pup just this weekend. I’m new to this but I can tell the little pup is thankful for being out of the shelter. It’s a good feeling to see her go from sad and sluggish in the kennel to happy and energetic at home.
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