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re: Active shooter at Allen TX mall
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
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We could consider getting rid of DAs who openly and pridefully refuse to prosecute crime
I'm just spitballing here, might be too crazy to work, idk
We've got DA's (DA's I'm sure this guy overtly supports) who openly campaign on keeping violent criminals - who use guns to commit crimes - out of jail and the problem is, according to him, that we don't have enough laws.
It's absolute, pure insanity.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:43 am to UnclassyStudent
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There’s a big difference between regulated and well regulated
Especially when most of the laws already on the books are ignored.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:44 am to upgrayedd
He believes in daddy govt being here to protect you.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:45 am to LegendInMyMind
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There’s a big difference between regulated and well regulated
Especially when most of the laws already on the books are ignored.
He completely forgets the key part of the amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:46 am to beerJeep
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He believes in daddy govt being here to protect you.
He thinks the cops have some sort of duty to protect you. I'm sure he was also one of those defund the police dipshits too.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:53 am to beerJeep
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There are about 200,000 therapists in the US right now. There are about 80,000 practicing psychologists.
If the point is restricting it then you can forget about the therapists.
That leaves psychologists, psychiatrists and psych nurse practitioners.
There's only 45,000ish practicing psychiatrists in the USA. even if you threw in the PNPs It's only another 25,000.
The crazy thing is I totally believe the government wouls attempt to go this route.
But the amount of liability that would be incurred by approving someone to get a gun who then a year later decides to murder someone with it would pretty much cause these professions to evaporate or deny everybody. There would need to be some kind of immunity in place and that's a whole another can of worms in and of itself.
Imagine approving some regular guy with a gun only to be called into court because 2 years later He found his wife in bed with some guy and shot the guy. frick all that.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:57 am to upgrayedd
I will use the case out of Huntsville, Alabama a few weeks ago where two cops were shot with one killed as an example.
The piece of shite who did that was already out on bond for a double shooting attempted murder charge from last year. During the time he was out on bond he was arrested again for illegal possession of a firearm. Because he was charged with the prior felony, and because he didn't already legally own the said handgun prior to being charged with a felony, he could not legally possess said firearm.
Now, that illegal possession of a firearm should have revoked his bond, sending him back to jail until he went to trial for the original double shooting. Instead, he went to court, plead guilty to a lesser charge, paid a fine or something, and was immediately released back onto the streets.
A few months later he would go on to shoot two police officers, killing one.
THAT is the problem.
The piece of shite who did that was already out on bond for a double shooting attempted murder charge from last year. During the time he was out on bond he was arrested again for illegal possession of a firearm. Because he was charged with the prior felony, and because he didn't already legally own the said handgun prior to being charged with a felony, he could not legally possess said firearm.
Now, that illegal possession of a firearm should have revoked his bond, sending him back to jail until he went to trial for the original double shooting. Instead, he went to court, plead guilty to a lesser charge, paid a fine or something, and was immediately released back onto the streets.
A few months later he would go on to shoot two police officers, killing one.
THAT is the problem.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:00 am to upgrayedd
I talk to my wife about this all the time, who is constantly bombarded with all these dumb moms on FB/Insta screaming about doing something
They've lost all credibility and they'll never get it back
The same people who want "common sense, come on, nothing anti-2A" gun restrictions are the ones who elect and support DAs who refuse to prosecute crime, especially crime that is committed by some minorities against the majority (or other, less in vogue minorities).
Those same people are the types who shifted attention from an event of trans terrorism (with AR-15) against little Christian children to trans rights in the span of hours. They went on TV and promoted the same conspiracy theory that got those children killed before their funerals had even taken place.
I of course never trusted them in the first place, but they're out there in the open showing us how they'll behave if we're disarmed and how they'll allow or even encourage open season on us, so it's a hard no.
They've lost all credibility and they'll never get it back
The same people who want "common sense, come on, nothing anti-2A" gun restrictions are the ones who elect and support DAs who refuse to prosecute crime, especially crime that is committed by some minorities against the majority (or other, less in vogue minorities).
Those same people are the types who shifted attention from an event of trans terrorism (with AR-15) against little Christian children to trans rights in the span of hours. They went on TV and promoted the same conspiracy theory that got those children killed before their funerals had even taken place.
I of course never trusted them in the first place, but they're out there in the open showing us how they'll behave if we're disarmed and how they'll allow or even encourage open season on us, so it's a hard no.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:01 am to UnclassyStudent
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The regulations that currently exist are minimal and ineffective. I think repeated mass shooting, not to mention the run of the mill daily gun violence, are a pretty clear indication of that
So when there was less regulation in the 50's-60's and much less gun violence, is that because guns became meaner and more violent? Is it just guns "born" in the last 20 years that are more likely to kill?
Are you for minimum jail time if you are a convicted felon caught with a gun or a person that uses a gun while committing a crime?
Who commits the daily gun violence? Are you for identifying the groups prone to the violence and putting restrictions on those groups?
Speeding/reckless driving kills more innocent people than AR15s by a huge margin. Are you for limitations on certain cars, engine sizes, on driving? @ 50,000 people die a year in auto accidents.
What's your thought on violence in movies, video games, the sensationalism in the media?
@18000 people a year are stabbed to death in the US. Mass stabbing in Utah killed 4 people. Is it the person committing the crime or the knife?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:04 am to Pettifogger
It reminds me of the lily white liberal woman who works for some progressive media outlet telling the world that wanting to ride the subway and be free from harassment, threat of violence, or actual violence is just a form of white privilege in the wake of the last incident.
They want you to be completely helpless so you have to rely on the people they put in place to selectively protect you depending on the prevailing political winds or the latest social movement.
It reminds me of the people who will say it's imperative that we ban plastic straws to save the planet but also says it's compassionate to allow people to continue the behavior that produces this in their own backyard:

They want you to be completely helpless so you have to rely on the people they put in place to selectively protect you depending on the prevailing political winds or the latest social movement.
It reminds me of the people who will say it's imperative that we ban plastic straws to save the planet but also says it's compassionate to allow people to continue the behavior that produces this in their own backyard:

This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:06 am to rltiger
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So when there was less regulation in the 50's-60's and much less gun violence, is that because guns became meaner and more violent? Is it just guns "born" in the last 20 years that are more likely to kill?
Are you for minimum jail time if you are a convicted felon caught with a gun or a person that uses a gun while committing a crime? Who commits the daily gun violence?
Are you for identifying the groups prone to the violence and putting restrictions on those groups? Speeding/reckless driving kills more innocent people than AR15s by a huge margin. Are you for limitations on certain cars, engine sizes, on driving? @ 50,000 people die a year in auto accidents.
What's your thought on violence in movies, video games, the sensationalism in the media? @18000 people a year are stabbed to death in the US. Mass stabbing in Utah killed 4 people. Is it the person committing the crime or the knife?
This all day long.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:43 am to UnclassyStudent
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The regulations that currently exist are minimal and ineffective. I think repeated mass shooting, not to mention the run of the mill daily gun violence, are a pretty clear indication of that
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UnclassyStudent
Must be a Sociology student. Low-IQ, ignorant of existing legal landscape wrt firearms in the US.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:54 am to UnclassyStudent
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Brain development is done by this point. You could pick the average age of the typical criminal or mass shooter and add a few years. Idk, get creative, be problem solvers
I had my first gun at 8. I’d wager a lot of guys on this site are similar.
I never shot anyone. My guns didn’t secretly sneak out, shoot someone, and sneak back in.
I’d bet 80% of the cars in my high school parking lot contained guns. How many shootings did we have? Zero.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:55 am to UnclassyStudent
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One that says you have to be 27?
Change the voting, drinking and driving age to 27 and I agree.
How old are you?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Change the voting, drinking and driving age to 27 and I agree.
How old are you?
Don't expect consistency out of these people.
They love to pick and choose when someone is capable of being an adult.
You can go kill people overseas in a tank at 18, but you can't buy a can of dip because you're not an adult.
You can't have a drink until you're 21 but you can permanently mutilate your body at 13 because you're an adult.
Asking them to justify all their nonsensical arbitrary age designations is good entertainment, though.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:12 am to UnclassyStudent
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Brain development is done by this point.
Well we know who's not quite 27 in here..
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Change the voting, drinking and driving age to 27 and I agree.
This is why the Oxford comma matters, dammit.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
Mauricio Garcia was kicked out of Army training in 2008 for mental health issues.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:54 pm to PaperPaintball92
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Mauricio Garcia was kicked out of Army training in 2008 for mental health issues.
And there is is, another one who shouldn’t have been allowed to have guns in the first place. If he was allowed to have them I would imagine some sort of evaluation should have been had after being kicked out of the army for mental issues.
That should be a read flag on the background check and a hold out on the purchase. Only way would be buying secondary without a background check, stealing, or straw purchase.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 12:58 pm to upgrayedd
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Don't expect consistency out of these people.
I never expect anything substantial out of these people. They chant and read contrived lines, but have no clue how things work.
Ideologues can recite lines, but can't explain what they mean.
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