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re: Active Military Service - Exemption from paying Federal Taxes

Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:31 pm to
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In a purely accounting sense


In a purely accounting sense, that makes no sense.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10379 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:32 pm to
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For the sake of discussion, would you be for/against a complete exemption of federal income tax for U.S. military service members who have served active duty for a specified number of years?

If you're for the exemption, how many years do you think one should serve as active duty to qualify for the exemption? 5 years? 10 years?



What would be the point of this? Are we facing a shortage of soldiers?

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56773 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:33 pm to
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In a purely accounting sense, that makes no sense.



Military personnel are paid via taxes. They can't possibly contribute to tax revenue.

This is not to demean anyone, it's just a reality.

Anyone who receives their income from the federal government doesn't really pay federal income tax in a real sense.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:33 pm to
100% against. No reason for that vs. a pay raise, if one is in order.
Posted by The Implication
south philly
Member since Sep 2019
527 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Seriously? Want to know how good all those combat vets would be without support from others?


Bullets don’t fly without supply!

Shut up, pog
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
18044 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:35 pm to
Economic entity principle, baw.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41681 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:37 pm to
The problem with any sort of tax exemption is, once you create one, everyone else is gonna want one too, and then you end up with a tax system that looks like what we have in Louisiana.

If you exempt military pay, then the policemen and fireman who are "just as brave" are going to want it. Then the EMTs and teachers. Then other government employees, etc.

Dramatically raise the pay of the military members, especially the enlisted. Then let them pay their own taxes.
Posted by Blueprint
Member since Apr 2018
2187 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:38 pm to
This right here.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:41 pm to
Big difference kicking down doors in Fallujah as an infantryman.
And being a quartermaster.

Or to quote Bill Burr.
The pilot is a hero.
Is the guy with the flow sticks saying "the battle is over there a hero?"

How do you account for that???
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:42 pm to
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policemen and firemen


I don’t know where the comparisons to our military and veterans started, but you are correct that they would be demanding it as well.

And eventually the bootlickers would give it to them.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:44 pm to
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they would be demanding it as well.


they already retire with a pension that almost equals their pay pre-retirement in many places, plus health coverage
Posted by Kcprogguitar
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2014
944 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:45 pm to
Sure. But their spouses still have to pay. Still have to pay on capital gains. Have to lose the VA benefits. And the home loan benefit. And the free college.

Have to define income. You’ll see massive amounts, and I’m taking mountain range massive amounts of fraud. Absolutely would have to have an annual cap on exempt income.

The numbers, in the end, would net benefit the govt. Not the vet. It would be better to eliminate the waste in the Pentagon and the VA.

And last, if you think the govt give a single solitary frick about vets, go find a thousand homeless vets and ask them. They’re not hard to find.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:48 pm to
The reasoning behind this was to attract better quality candidates and on the surface I’m not opposed. The question is what in the frick happened?
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:48 pm to
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Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:50 pm to
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In a purely accounting sense, they are already exempt, as are all federal employees.

This might be the dumbest thing I’ve read in a while.
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You can't owe money to those who pay you.


Federal money goes to a lot more than federal employees. So by your logic does a employee of Lockheed Martin pay taxes when they are working from government contracts? Bc that is where the money is coming from. What about contractors working on a federal highway?
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 2:09 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:53 pm to
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The question is what in the frick happened?


municipalities can't maintain the pension funding over the long haul
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:55 pm to
As a vet, I'm 100% in favor of active duty and retired receiving exemptions
Posted by Rocket Surgeon
Member since Jan 2020
696 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:56 pm to
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I have 2 herniated disc's and advance arthritis of the spine.

Welcome to age 50.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:57 pm to
No, they can not and those policies didn’t attract the best people.

This is the same reason I would be against making active duty and veterans tax exempt. I’m not one to denigrate someone else’s service, but there are some real shitbags that skate by to 20 years of service at the expense of the taxpayer already.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 2/3/20 at 1:58 pm to
What about people that have disabilities from preventing them for joining the military, like bones spurs, or fibromyalgia or lupas. Can they get tax breaks too since they wanted to join but can't?
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