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re: Acceptance of sexual identity and the new frontier, where will it go?

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Posted by BRgetthenet
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:56 am to
A dude I know's daughter is dressing like a baw and doesn't want to wear girly stuff, so they think she's gonna be a lesbian.

She's all emo and shite and let's her bangs hang in her face and likes cargo shorts. It's crazy.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:56 am to
"It" will go to hell
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:56 am to
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They are letting/encouraging damn 5 year olds to be brave and transition.


This is scary as shite.

The bizarre state this country is in were we just give in to everything children want rather than teach them lessons or ever show them that sometimes in life you have to just suck it up. You have to deal with shite you don't like. Not everything is fair and not everything you want is attainable. Deal with it.
Posted by metrueblue
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:56 am to
With all of the talk about the Gay movement and the Transgender movement...despite all of the publicity they are receiving, I read that the percentage of the population that actually gay or TG is less than 2% and 1% respectively. Based on those numbers...this is a definite agenda being forced on the populace.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:56 am to
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Consent...does this really need to be re-explained over and over?


those were extremes, but both that claim "it's not a mental illness"


Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:58 am to
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can a 5 year have surgery to remove his penis?


No, but they sure can push for gender neutral bathrooms in schools. When they get that do you think that is where it will end?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:58 am to
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but both that claim "it's not a mental illness"


probably more of a defect than illness

illness implies it can be cured
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:58 am to
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Animals can't consent. Kids can't consent.




So ANYTHING consented by two adults should be normal and legal?

Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:59 am to
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the difference is consenting adults



Do I have a chance to not consent for a transgendered person to use the same bathroom as my kid cause they "identify" as the same gender? Or is that implied consent so I don't violate their "human rights"?

I'm gonna advocate for robbing a bank to be legal and socially acceptable because I was born with the want to be rich.
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Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:59 am to
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they sure can push for gender neutral bathrooms in schools.


can I have a percent of schools with gender neutral bathrooms?

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When they get that do you think that is where it will end?


you really think courts will allow parents to cut their kids functioning penis off?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:00 am to
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So ANYTHING consented by two adults should be normal and legal?


I don't know about the normal part

but legal? if it doesn't harm anyone else or their property, why should it not be legal?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:01 am to
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those were extremes, but both that claim "it's not a mental illness"


Like I said...this has REALLY triggered an issue with some folks. No idea why...honestly.

I give ZERO fricks about any of this as it truly has no affect on me...at all.

Bruce Jenner can o whatever he wants as far as I'm concerned. I don't have to follow suit. My most honest opinion on what he's done if forced to give an opinion on it would be..."Eh. I wouldn't do it, but if it makes him happy and he's not hurting anyone else...why should I care?" So long as he's not hurting anyone else, I'm not even sure why I need to bother forming an opinion on this...at all.
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:03 am to

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:05 am to
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It'll be interesting when someone actually takes a real shot at beastiality. Cows don't consent to be killed, so why should they have to consent to be sexed? Personally I don't like the line of logic and there are holes there, but someone is going to argue it.



I'm not going to go some anti-SJW thing. It's just I have a line of thinking on it and I just wanted to discuss it here. I did expect the "consent" part. Still, all this coverage of 'Caitlyn' this week and the backlash against those who "don't get it' tells me that Transgender is the gay of the 00's.
Full on acceptance. So now, instead of just the awkward conversations about how Mr. Thomas and Mr. Mike are a couple, we now explain that it's perfectly fine, if at any point in your life you feel like switching sexes.

Maybe not "lots of kids" but there are articles out there. Yes, I have met "gay kids" kids who at five or six were already very effeminate. I still don't feel even then that they should be able to become a girl, because they identify as a girl.

They are not yet adults, so I don't think they fall into that "consenting adults" part, yet they are out there.

On the other hand, fathers who dream of having a boy only to have a flock of daughters can now have their boy regardless.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:05 am to
LINK

Ryland confirmed this at the Harvey Milk Diversity Break (watch here) when he said, "My name is Ryland Michael Whittington. I'm a transgender kid. I am six. I am a cool kid...I am the happiest I have ever been in my whole life.”

They will push till they get it.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:07 am to
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I lean left,


i hang to the left.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:09 am to
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.this is a definite agenda being forced on the populace.




It is.

An acceptance movement.

The Assexuals are being more vocal now too. Though I don't see how they factor in this. There have always been shut ins and hermits.

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:10 am to
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They will push till they get it.


ok

so parents push agendas onto kids? parents push their hate, their religion, all kinds of things onto their kids and its incredibly shitty

no argument here

but a parent saying that their boy can dress like a girl if he wants to is different than a parent actively fighting to cut off their boys penis at age 6

Posted by constant cough
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:13 am to
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lean left, and was accepting of gay people as far back as hih school.



Right, people like you have been enabling all this gay pc bullshite. You are part of the problem.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 8:14 am to
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can I have a percent of schools with gender neutral bathrooms?



Right now it's about .005% but this is a brand new movement. We aren't talking about today, we are talking about tomorrow.

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There are more than 150 schools across the U.S. that have gender-neutral bathrooms, according to the University of Massachusetts Amherst's LGBTQ organization The Stonewall Center.


LINK


But It is hard to argue against gender neutral bathrooms, especially for disabled kids. I remember in school there was a kid burned up 95% of his body, and he had a lady who went tot he bathroom with him, and no one could use it when he could. While not common, I can see why schools could use a separate bathroom.

Though I would also guess that normal kids using it would get picked on. Kids pick on other kids for the smallest of things.
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