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Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:44 am
Paging all OT Cyber Security Baws.

I keep my passwords in a non-descript booklet that I pretty much keep with me at all times.

A guy yesterday told me that was far riskier than keeping them electronically on a password manager.

How? Only I can read my handwriting. I have EVERYTHING on two-factor, and the code to my phone is not in the booklet. If I lose my backpack, I can change all my passwords anyway. The advantage to my booklet is that it can never be hacked.

What says that baws?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
32720 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:45 am to
I have all of my passwords memorized. God help my family when I die.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79412 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:46 am to
I would write down bogus passwords, but when you see it you know what the real one is.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1867 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:51 am to
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I would write down bogus passwords, but when you see it you know what the real one is.


Now that is a damn good idea.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31758 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:53 am to
If you have two factor on everything, it doesn't really matter either way. If someone takes control of your second factor, they can likely "recover" the account without the password, regardless.

It's why two factor is pushed so heavily by enterprise security.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13698 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:57 am to
The guy was right. Using a password manager, you can have 1,000 passwords that are completely random, and 30 characters long, and have them auto-filled.

I wouldn't steal your password book, I'd borrow it, take pictures of it, and put it back before you noticed.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14516 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:58 am to
If you do it that way, just write partial clues, not the whole password. I doubt you have 100 unique passwords? You probably recycle a handful of passwords?

If your password is LT43$drsbs2 - just write down "LT". That way if someone finds your paper it's useless to them. But it's an easy reminder for you.


Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3912 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:00 am to
quote:

LT43$drsbs2


Damn, now I have to change my bank password.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34557 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Paging all OT Cyber Security Baws.



Written passwords are bad, mmmkay but I get it since everything is requiring more complex passwords.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43181 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:11 am to
Keep mine on a cd I store in a gay porn dvd case. Good luck to any robbers trying to find it among the hundreds of similar looking cases.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1867 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Keep mine on a cd I store in a gay porn dvd case. Good luck to any robbers trying to find it among the hundreds of similar looking cases.


Better hope that the hacker isn't an Aggie.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15891 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:12 am to
All of mine are in a notepad file on my desktop.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10084 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:13 am to
quote:

A guy yesterday told me that was far riskier than keeping them electronically on a password manager.



Riskier, yes

losing the book is way more likely than someone hacking into a password manager and nailing your current passwords...

you're focusing too much on this guy trying to be better than you...

ETA: I'm the only one here who has a title you mentioned in your post for my job at an acronym agency..

take whatever advice given here from your local BTR helpdesk nerds for what they are
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1867 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:13 am to
quote:

I wouldn't steal your password book, I'd borrow it, take pictures of it, and put it back before you noticed.


I get that. But then I would start getting texts seeking two-factor authentication, and I would immediately know.
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2727 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Keep mine on a cd I store in a gay porn dvd case. Good luck to any robbers trying to find it among the hundreds of similar looking cases.



Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34557 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Riskier, yes



If it is backed up by 2FA then it isn't more risk. Hell my kids school lunch account refill option is backed by 2FA.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9374 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

How? Only I can read my handwriting.


If this is what you think qualifies as “secure” than no one can tell you anything.

Go take a picture of your “special” handwriting and run it through AI and it will immediately read it.

quote:

guy yesterday told me that was far riskier than keeping them electronically on a password manager.
There is a reason that pretty much all major IT departments have gone to this - the same IT departments that make you have crazy 16 digit passwords with all kinds of rules on what they have to be.

This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72340 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:17 am to
quote:

I have all of my passwords memorized. God help my family when I die.


I’m the password keeper for the whole family, including my MIL. None of them know any of their passwords. Anytime they need one, they ask me. I can’t understand how anyone goes around oblivious to their own passwords.

Which I have a system for all my passwords. Each one is the name of a famous battle with one random letter capitalized, followed by some sort of symbol, followed by the numerical day, month, and year of the battle. For example one could be jeNa@10141806 or cannaE&080216BC or something similar.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10084 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

There is a reason that pretty much all major IT departments have gone to this


no

quote:

the same IT departments that make you have crazy 16 digit passwords with all kinds of rules on what they have to be.


passphrase is what you want and "the longer the better" is old news
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2544 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:19 am to
Download the 1Password app. You have one password to access it (put it in a safe so you never forget). Once you access it you can create all the passwords you want under each entity. Websites are stored similar to your phone contacts.

When you go to login to say, your bank or cell phone provider, a widget pops up on the login screen to access 1 password. You click it, and it goes straight to the password, and you autofill it. Done.

When a tech guy recommended it I figured it would be the biggest PIA. It's a lifesaver.

You can set the master password to facial recognition. Just don't get kidnapped and tied up.

The 1Password password should not be used as a password anywhere else.

Good luck.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:20 am
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