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re: A supposed former CIA operative makes a death bed confession about WTC Building 7

Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:38 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:38 am to
Okay, slight center left.



Then you can see evidence to the internal explosions to remove the resistance for a clean controlled demolition:


Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:38 am to
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So many people are so afraid of being called sheeple that they blindly accept whatever conspiracy theory that Alex Jones puts out there then shames anyone who chooses to believe actual facts and evidence in order to feel a sense of intellectual superiority

FIFY
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:40 am to
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Secretly smuggling IN 1000s of pounds of whatever it took for the demolition (including thermite and other high explosives) was the "best plan" to destroy sensitive files? Because....Jet fuel can't melt hard drives? ...burn paper?


You have to understand that these papers were the ones proving that NASA never landed on the moon, so it was really that important to get it done right.

And WTC7 didn't generate much smoke from all the flames you couldn't see because the thermite was dilithium-boosted.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:40 am to
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Okay, slight center left.


So...like the NIST report states

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Then you can see evidence to the internal explosions to remove the resistance for a clean controlled demolition:


I see evidence of systematic failure.

Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:42 am to
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Fermite will do this


I don't know what "fermite" is to refute this.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:42 am to
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I see evidence of systematic failure


Systemic failure? Like steel beam system failure due to jet fuel, because that's not possible my friend.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:43 am to
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You've planted the seed of a new conspiracy!


New to the masses, maybe. I first heard of scale prototypes being tested as proof of concept in Florida about 9 years ago.

Between you n' me - A former operative told me all about it while he was wiping my windshield at a detail shop. Was skeptical at first because the guy was using the same damn rag he had just finished my dash with and you know how fun Armor All can be on glass blah blah blah.... Attention to detail probably not as big a deal at his old job.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:46 am to
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Like steel beam system failure due to jet fuel, because that's not possible my friend.



No. Systematic failure to due intense heat and weakening of steel beams due to thermal expansion.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:47 am to
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Systemic failure? Like steel beam system failure due to jet fuel, because that's not possible my friend.


I actually work with someone who believes the "no way jet fuel compromised the structure." I brought him to the aftermath of a literal jet fuel fire on our site. The fire, 20+ years ago, happened to take place at the bottom of a staircase supported by 8" i-beams. The i-veams are twisted all the hell because of the fire.

I just asked what he thought would happen if a few hundred tons were on top of those beams during the approx 20minute fire.
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:49 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:50 am to
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So...like the NIST report states


Yes.

But their structural simulation shows differently...something you would expect with an asymmetrical fire (if you are willing to believe fire can cause modern structural steel building to collapse).

Watch the video I posed on page 11 please.

quote:

I see evidence of systematic failure.


Exactly. That's what happens in a controlled demolition.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:51 am to
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Have you ever been to a house fire?
Can you guess what is very common to hear?


Sparks
Hard rain
"kinda like a Monster truck driving on stuff" noises
...and Balloons popping (like...really big ones)
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:53 am to
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Exactly. That's what happens in a controlled demolition.


It would also appear to be what happens when a building systematically fails

Posted by maxxrajun70
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:56 am to
never understood this dumbass conspiracy shite...why in the fricks would we slaughter 3000 of our own people???
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/17/17 at 8:57 am to
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No. Systematic failure to due intense heat and weakening of steel beams due to thermal expansion.




Thermal expansion expansion assumes that all the other materials surrounding the steel are not under thermal expansion. I know different materials expand at different rates but his only effects rebar in concrete... on the foors. This won't affect the structural steel beams (supporting the floors) which is effectively one homogeneous structural unit and can stand on their own.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:03 am to
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This won't affect the structural steel beams (supporting the floors) which is effectively one homogeneous structural unit and can stand on their own.


Why wouldn't it?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:12 am to
It's just hard to realize that it's been 16 years already..... still a very sad story for the history of this country. And all you conspirisy people can kiss my arse.....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:24 am to
In general, conspiracy theorists tend to believe in many different theories and tie them in to a larger malicious threat.

LINK

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In practical terms, one of the hardest things about dealing with people such as Oliver is that they are more than likely to accuse you of the same intellectual vices that you detect in them. You say that Oliver is gullible for believing his 9/11 conspiracy theory; he retorts that you are gullible for believing the conclusions of the 9/11 Commission. You say that he dismisses the official account of 9/11 because he is closed-minded; he accuses you of closed-mindedness for refusing to take conspiracy theories seriously. If we are often blind to our own intellectual vices then who are we to accuse Oliver of failing to realise that he believes his theories only because he is gullible?

These are all legitimate questions, but it’s important not to be too disconcerted by this attempt to turn the tables on you. True, no one is immune to self-ignorance. That doesn’t excuse Oliver. The fact is that his theory is no good, whereas there is every reason to believe that aircraft impacts did bring down the Twin Towers


There are some things I am skeptical about but believing in sweeping conspiracies many times goes too far, particularly if there is ample evidence to dispute them.

The difference between a casual believer in an individual conspiracy and a theorist is the theorist tends to have an overlying sinister plot that is supported by many different conspiracies. Healthy skepticism becomes delusion.
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:27 am to
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never understood this dumbass conspiracy shite...why in the fricks would we slaughter 3000 of our own people???


3000 is nothing to the illuminati

Also those responsible don't consider themselves Americans. Multiple countries involved. CIA was just one arm involved.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:28 am to
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Why wouldn't it?




Cause jet fuel no melt steel beam
This post was edited on 7/17/17 at 9:29 am
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