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re: A Dallas hospital worker now has Ebola

Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:24 am to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:24 am to
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why are you talking as if he only had contact with one health care worker


He's not.

One case resulting in a new infection in a developed country is a terrible record and illustrates how unprepared we are. Texas Presbyterian is making history in a very bad way.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60915 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Matt Laurer wants to know why cdc is disinfecting the sidewalk in front of new ebola victims home....his guest had no clue why


secrets brother. secrets.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5117 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:37 am to
Can I invest in this cleanup guys company? They are gonna make a killing. No pun intended.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:49 am to
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Nurses unions in CA I believe have already chimed in. I'm not union or anti-union. But their statement hits what I have been saying. We don't have true hazmat training nor that type of equipment available to us. Not in general.

Every shot I see on the news of a health care worker putting on PPE has equipment FAR superior to anything I have ever had available. I fear we are protecting ourselves from Ebola with equipment sufficient to stop MRSA.


Just saw on CNN that CDC is totally blaming the nurse for not following proper protocols. That's bullshite. Again....it's not like nurses are trained to deal with diseases like this nor do we readily have access to the protective equipment to protect. CDC trying to make public think that is the case though. I know how to properly protect against MRSA and TB....but Ebola?! Those nurses there at that hospital likely got a quick crash course in how to wear all the gear(if even that).
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70011 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:51 am to
I know you are going to protect nurses but isn't it possible she didn't follow the protocols? She couldn't have been the only nurse, dr, or medical worker to have contact right?
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:55 am to
It is possible. But they need to address that our healthcare workers are NOT trained for this.

CDC is making the public think that this is something we are already trained for. And that's not the case.

They had the head of a national nurse's association on tv saying the same thing. Basically saying that nurses have been asking their workplaces for training and what is proper protocols and that they aren't always getting answers.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:58 am to
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if I worked in a hospital with an Ebola patient


Think for a second please.

How would someone know they have ebola? By going to the doctor.

How many patients are treated daily in the u.s. with not ebola? Hundreds of thousands.

There is a contact period before anyone realizes what just walked in the door
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:00 am to
I want to start a consulting company that specializes in training medical personal who to deal with ebola quarantine and protection procedures.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:01 am to
Yeah and how many people go to the ER for a high fever and flu symptoms? And how many different things can a fever be?

Not like there is a rapid screen for Ebola like a strep swab.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29861 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Not like there is a rapid screen for Ebola like a strep swab.


I heard on NPR the other day that two companies are about 30 days out from a quick test.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:16 am to
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One case resulting in a new infection in a developed country is a terrible record and illustrates how unprepared we are. Texas Presbyterian is making history in a very bad way.

OMFG

DOES ANYONE EVEN STATISTICS BRO
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:18 am to
Shutup boats. Don't ruin this. Some of us just want to watch the world burn.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70011 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:18 am to
quote:

But they need to address that our healthcare workers are NOT trained for this.


I agree i am just interested in why the others didn't contract it. Seems like the nurse could have spread it to others also.

It will be an interesting flu season to say the least.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:23 am to
Well if anyone gets it....I would imagine it would be a nurse over a doctor. Nurses (and nursing assistants)are the ones cleaning up all the nasty body fluids. They are the ones drawing blood for labs. They are in contact with that patient much more than the doctors. Maybe that nurse happened to be the one the patient vomited on while she was caring for him?
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:24 am to
If I get ebola, would you care for me?

ETA: I wipe my own arse!
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 9:25 am
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:25 am to
I totally get where you are coming from but the director of the CDC basically has no other answer to the question. He has to say protocol was broken somewhere. Otherwise the protocol is shite and he can't say that.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:31 am to
No I understand. But they need to address the fact that many healthcare workers are not trained to deal with this. I mean....they keep showing diagrams of cdc protocols....that show staff putting on the plastic gowns that open in the back. How is that the same as a hazmat suit?


They just showed someone else talking about how budget cuts have possibly affected training. So true. Hospitals are cutting costs any way they can.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:33 am to
quote:

. But they need to address the fact that many healthcare workers are not trained to deal with this.


What would that accomplish?
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:35 am to
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Shutup boats. Don't ruin this. Some of us just want to watch the world burn.

Obviously, kashonly
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22933 posts
Posted on 10/13/14 at 9:51 am to
Protocol on paper may be flawless. Protocol in human hands is totally dependent on flawless (and consistent) human application. Since we all know human beings, some of us may wonder how there is so much confidence in the protocols (and their human sidekicks).
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 10:12 am
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