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re: $99 Drug dog home walk through, worth it?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:56 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:56 am to NYNolaguy1
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Parents have had their homes seized through asset forfeiture because of drugs found in the home BC of teenagers.
Well, the first step is that we need to elect officials to get rid of the ridiculous civil asset forfeiture laws. They're insanity and I can't believe people aren't talking about it more during election years.
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:56 am to stout
Up vote
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:57 am to Kujo
For any reason except your child. You will only give the youngin the pressure to do it away from home and really not trust or frick with you. They're getting a jump start on trying to beat the legal system. Bad move imo. I would only pay for that service for newly acquired property or vehicles with a possible drug connection.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:59 am to Pax Regis
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Mine are not old enough where this is an issue yet, but I have good friends who are good people and good parents whose children just cannot resist testing boundaries and ignoring good, solid parental teaching. This is just another tool to use in the effort to be an effective parent. Good for this guy.
Ok. Think of all the steps that (I hope) a parent would have taken before getting to the point of calling a drug sniffing do to their home.
If you are to that point, it shouldn't be a question in your mind that the child is using. A simple home test or trip to the PCP, as a last resort, should have removed any doubt from their mind. At that point, you get them help, start building the social construct that will be needed to support him/her through whatever problems they are facing. Of course, you search your own house to the best of your ability. You don't find anything, but you already know he's using.
What is the parent actually trying to accomplish by bringing what is essentially a police narcotics unit to your house to search their child's possessions?
You already know he's using.
You already know he needs help.
You (should) already know where that influence is coming from.
What does the dog finding a little baggy with some blow remnants accomplish in the grand scheme of helping the child recover? Do those that believe this is a good idea think this will help further a solution? I just believe it would further fracture the little bit of remaining relationship the kid has with the parents.
I was that kid, though my parents never needed the drug sniffing dog to get me help.
And yes, I now have two of my own, and could never imagine going to these extremes.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:02 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Some of these people are unbelievable in their arrogance.
It's not a matter of arrogance, just a difference of opinion on how to handle a family crisis resulting from drug abuse.
Of course some kids use, despite having an excellent upbringing. I did. But bringing K9 units to your house isn't effective parenting, IMO.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:02 pm to stout
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Well, the first step is that we need to elect officials to get rid of the ridiculous civil asset forfeiture laws. They're insanity and I can't believe people aren't talking about it more during election years.
While true, as long as the popo keep getting the cash from seizures, you'll never see the laws changed without a big fight. Same reason drugs laws won't be changed in LA for a long time. The popo will never let their golden goose fly away.
Aside from that, I would be very very very careful about who discloses what to whom once drugs are found in the home. If they are you just made yourself and your family a prime target for a 6 am drug raid or a 7 am eviction once your house has been seized by your local jurisdiction.
More people need to know the consequences of what happens here.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:08 pm to Esquire
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And does that dog on the billboard have a jay and a firecracker in his nose. What's with the firecracker?
It's a stick of dynamite. For those parents who raise pot smoking terrorists.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:16 pm to MSMHater
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earlier irresponsibility and inaction are the only reason either of those things would be an issue.
when did you first try weed?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:16 pm to Kujo
I don't see this leading to a very healthy relationship later in life. You call the company, and the paramilitary looking goon comes over with his dog, he finds some pot or whatever, and you take it from them. Kid then realizes that leaving his pot at home is not safe, and makes a secret stash spot in the woods or somewhere else. Trust = destroyed, on both sides. Kid now is literally counting down the days till he can get the frick away from his parents.
There is no great answer here, because kids are dumb and susceptible to peer pressure, but it might be better if parents would acknowledge that maybe smoking a joint isn't the worst thing their kid can do, even if you would prefer that they not do that. Maybe even verbalize this to their kids! Taking the prison guard approach to parenting just seems like the absolute worst way to go about it, since it basically reinforces a me vs you mentality, as well as severing all honest channels of communication.
There is no great answer here, because kids are dumb and susceptible to peer pressure, but it might be better if parents would acknowledge that maybe smoking a joint isn't the worst thing their kid can do, even if you would prefer that they not do that. Maybe even verbalize this to their kids! Taking the prison guard approach to parenting just seems like the absolute worst way to go about it, since it basically reinforces a me vs you mentality, as well as severing all honest channels of communication.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:17 pm to Kujo
Screw that guy and his dog
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:17 pm to MSMHater
In the perfect world you wouldn't need it but.........
It is worth it.
It is worth it.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:19 pm to bigpetedatiga
If you can't be your kids friend and parent you've failed at life.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:21 pm to bigpetedatiga
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Drugs do not discriminate based on income, sex, class, race, or religion.
I know of three people from good families who lost their lives in one way or another due to drugs. One in a wreck, one shot in a drug deal, one recently found dead in his house. All came from good families where the other siblings were trying to get into med school or graduated from law school. They just had an issue. The last one recently had been in rehab and everyone thought was doing better. I don't see an issue with this if you truly need to be sure your kid is clean for the sake of saving his life.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:40 pm to Kujo
Taking away drugs won't fix any problems. They can always get more. Having real discussions with them about it may.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:43 pm to TJGator1215
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If you can't be your kids friend and parent you've failed at life.
If you can't tell the difference then you may be as stupid as I thought...
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:44 pm to bigpetedatiga
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Absolutely inaccurate. Like I said, drugs hit everybody, nobody is truly immune. I know plenty of great parents that have kids who do drugs and drink.
And sadly, all it takes sometimes is a round of pain meds after surgery or an injury to get someone addicted.
Not all addicts are cracked out druggies. Plenty of people who are abusing it that are keeping their head just above water.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:45 pm to MSMHater
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It's not a matter of arrogance, just a difference of opinion on how to handle a family crisis resulting from drug abuse.
Then how would you handle it?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:46 pm to Kujo
Sumbitch just found Salvia it looks like. Maybe some thyme.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:01 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Some of these people are unbelievable in their arrogance.
They:
1. Don't have kids older than 12 or are completely unaware of their own kids and the things kids can get into
2. Went all the way through high school and college in the library and playing with themselves
Oh no. They didnt play with themselves. That would be a sin, like drugs.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:01 pm to tigersfirst
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And when they find them, then what?
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Finders keepers?
That's actually a great front. Train dogs to sniff for drugs. Have shitty parents pay you to find their kids drugs. Offer to "dispose" of them. Boom, free drugs!
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