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re: 9/11 call from the towers
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:32 am to udtiger
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:32 am to udtiger
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It was troubling to see the ease and carelessness of the people that were there. It was just another "stop." Another meaningless historical landmark like the countless others they give little to no notice to as they travel down a highway or through a national park.
That's one on the big things that struck my wife and I when we visited in 2014. Foreigners were playing and laughing, nudging you out the way to take goofy selfies. It was sickening and I couldn't help but wonder what the families of the people killed might feel if they were there seeing all of this.
When you visit the Holocaust museum in D.C. it is incredibly quiet throughout the entire time you are there. It should be the same for the 9/11 museum. But, sadly, it isn't. It doesn't appear to be a big deal for people outside of the US and we are now 18 years removed for people inside the US. An entire generation of kids knows very little about that day and don't understand the magnitude of the events.
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:34 am to Alt26
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It plays phone message recordings from various people in the towers and shows you where they were in the tower when they made the call. It is absolutely heartbreaking and I had to walk away for fear of becoming a sobbing mess. It breaks your heart even more when you listen to it as a parent
This. The whole tour is troubling but when my wife and I were standing in that room I looked at her and said I had to get out.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:35 am to Alt26
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It doesn't appear to be a big deal for people outside of the US
it's celebrated in some countries, been there, have seen the t-shirts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:35 am to bott18240
What’s really sad is so many have forgotten that many many radical Muslims want us dead and would do this again in a heartbeat. It’s mind boggling that a certain group of Americans are welcoming them in with open arms.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:36 am to udtiger
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This should have been our response
You think this will somehow scare people who are willing to die for their beliefs?
Goodluck.gif
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:37 am to EarlyCuyler3
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You think this will somehow scare people who are willing to die for their beliefs?
Sooner or later, after enough of their friends, relatives and holy sites have been reduced to smoldering irradiated ash, there would be a moment of pause.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:39 am to udtiger
Like I said, good luck. None of those things mean anything when you're doing it for God. They'll willingly send children to die. You can't out crazy truly crazy.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:43 am to Brazos
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What’s really sad is so many have forgotten that many many radical Muslims want us dead and would do this again in a heartbeat. It’s mind boggling that a certain group of Americans are welcoming them in with open arms.
Probably because not every Muslim is radical. They get thick background checks.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:44 am to VolsOut4Harambe
I just visited ground zero a few weeks ago with my wife.
It was Asian tourists taking selfies, people talking and smiling, and parents chasing kids everywhere.
Very little somber reflection outside of a handful of people.
It was Asian tourists taking selfies, people talking and smiling, and parents chasing kids everywhere.
Very little somber reflection outside of a handful of people.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:44 am to TeddyPadillac
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Yeah. every Japanese citizen wanted to go to war,
not saying they wanted to, but they were conscripted
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don't act like we didn't kill a shite load of innocent people in doing so.
different day and time, the Japanese military that was calling the shots were evil and barbaric, our guys had been slugging it out for four years and it was time for a knockout punch, japs, based on history and intel were not going to give up, the citizens were so brainwashed and coerced that they would kill themselves rather than interact with victorious US fighting men(Saipan,Okinawa)
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:47 am to TeddyPadillac
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Yeah. every Japanese citizen wanted to go to war, just like every German citizen wanted to go to war and loved Hitler.
I'm not saying I have a problem with dropping those bombs. I understand why we did it, and it needed to be done, but don't act like we didn't kill a shite load of innocent people in doing so.
So you're justifying 9/11 by comparing it to a justifiable attack on the Japanese Mainland. On 9/11 itself.
Seriously, frick you.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:48 am to bott18240
When i went in 2007, I had a different experience.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:53 am to KosmoCramer
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So you're justifying 9/11 by comparing it to a justifiable attack on the Japanese Mainland. On 9/11 itself
Yeah. That’s exactly what I was doing dumb frick. You go frick your self.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:00 am to Alt26
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It was sickening and I couldn't help but wonder what the families of the people killed might feel if they were there seeing all of this
I go every year with a colleague of mine who I moved up here with from Charlotte who lost his father (and now his brother and sister since they graduated and joined the industry)
His dad worked for Cantor Fitzgerald.
Whenever we go I notice the same as it’s become quite the tourist attraction but he never says anything because he’s not paying attention and taking more in/looking at his dads name
I actually asked it to him and he never seemed to care, one time snapped at me “stop giving a shite about other people!”
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:02 am to xxTIMMYxx
I realize every Muslim isn’t radical but the problem is a certain group doesn’t want to label any Muslim radical. All they care about are radical right wingers.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:09 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:It takes a real piece of shite to do what you're doing in this thread.
TeddyPadillac
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:09 am to Brazos
I've actually never listened to that audio before now... absolutely chilling and puts everything back into perspective.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:19 am to saint tiger225
This is 9/11. And a thread showing the real human aspect of that day. Just for one day can the irrelevant bullshite and name calling not have to happen??
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:21 am to bott18240
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This is 9/11. And a thread showing the real human aspect of that day. Just for one day can the irrelevant bull shite and name calling not have to happen??
while I agree with this, the freedoms that we enjoy are due to the sacrifice of others blood
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:22 am to saint tiger225
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It takes a real piece of shite to do what you're doing in this thread.
Y'all are ridiculous.
All I was pointing out is that these moron muslims think what they did was right. A normal human being knows they are murderous pieces of shite. Everyone here thinks what we did in dropping atom bombs was right, and I think that too, dumbasses. But maybe, just maybe, the innocent Japs that were killed by that bomb don't feel what we did was right. Just trying to point out to look at the perspective of others and their rationale, whether it's right or wrong.
Doesn't mean i'm a muslim loving 9/11 hater, bunch of idiots.
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