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Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:35 pm to HeadCall
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Women with a Bachelor or higher level education initiate the divorce an astounding 90% of the time.
If you mean they frick someone else which caused the divorce then yep, they do usually initiate it.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:36 pm to HeadCall
After about 15 years as a couple, my wife started making stupid little throwaway jokes about me in social settings. I guess she was expecting that to turn out like it does in frozen dinner ads on TV, but it did not.
The second time she did it, a switch flipped in me. I tried to get to the bottom of what was motivating her. I wasn't some loser shoe salesman in "dad bod" mode. I was actually approaching a personal and professional zenith. Maybe the hormonal birth control thing played a role, since she had gotten her tubes tied after our third kid.
Anyway, she didn't get what I was trying to tell her, so I made her as miserable a I could. I did all of the things that people in this thread seem to feel "force" women to file. I told her, "you fricked up and this is you being punished" and that it was time for her to finally swallow her considerable pride.
I wanted things to work out in the end but the societal consensus nowadays is that I'd "forced" her to divorce me and eventually she did. Those of you who hold such views are part of what's rotten about life in the USA nowadays, IMO. There's no legitimate wedding vow that includes "unless he cheats or beats me."
Was I in the right? No. I was not necessarily wrong in what I did at the end, but I was wrong in the beginning and middle. What I should have done was to be the sort of husband and father the Bible describes- a leader. I'd let her get almost to 40 years old without her knowing up from down spiritually or ethically.
My advice to any man looking to get married is to know what you're getting into. So many guys just marry the hottest chick they can get to say "yes" (no matter how begrudgingly) and they pay for it for the rest of their lives.
I have remarried now, and I am not afraid of what my wife might say or do, because of who she is.
The second time she did it, a switch flipped in me. I tried to get to the bottom of what was motivating her. I wasn't some loser shoe salesman in "dad bod" mode. I was actually approaching a personal and professional zenith. Maybe the hormonal birth control thing played a role, since she had gotten her tubes tied after our third kid.
Anyway, she didn't get what I was trying to tell her, so I made her as miserable a I could. I did all of the things that people in this thread seem to feel "force" women to file. I told her, "you fricked up and this is you being punished" and that it was time for her to finally swallow her considerable pride.
I wanted things to work out in the end but the societal consensus nowadays is that I'd "forced" her to divorce me and eventually she did. Those of you who hold such views are part of what's rotten about life in the USA nowadays, IMO. There's no legitimate wedding vow that includes "unless he cheats or beats me."
Was I in the right? No. I was not necessarily wrong in what I did at the end, but I was wrong in the beginning and middle. What I should have done was to be the sort of husband and father the Bible describes- a leader. I'd let her get almost to 40 years old without her knowing up from down spiritually or ethically.
My advice to any man looking to get married is to know what you're getting into. So many guys just marry the hottest chick they can get to say "yes" (no matter how begrudgingly) and they pay for it for the rest of their lives.
I have remarried now, and I am not afraid of what my wife might say or do, because of who she is.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:37 pm to LSUSkip
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I'm not happy with my wife, and I haven't been
Why not? What’s happened?
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:41 pm to Elusiveporpi
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If you mean they frick someone else which caused the divorce then yep, they do usually initiate it.
Well according to the data I’ve found only about 20-25% of women who initiate divorce claim infidelity on the husbands part to be the reason. Posted earlier in this thread.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:42 pm to Porpus
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I made her as miserable a I could
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the societal consensus nowadays is that I'd "forced" her to divorce me and eventually she did.
Your post is very confusing and you sound like a huge a-hole. Glad it didn’t work out for you
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:44 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Your post is very confusing and you sound like a huge a-hole. Glad it didn’t work out for you
To be fair, he admitted he was in the wrong. And if he is to be believed she wasn’t a very good partner to begin with.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:48 pm to HeadCall
Also, his post shows that quite often, more so than many are willing to admit, the breakdown in marriages is caused by contributions from both spouses.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I was partly with him on his wife ridiculing him in public until we got to the part where his "switch flipped" after his wife poked fun at him the the *gasp* SECOND time
But maybe it's generational, my wife and I take fun shots at each other among our friends all the time.
But maybe it's generational, my wife and I take fun shots at each other among our friends all the time.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:49 pm to Dadren
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I think an additional factor is that women are more “economically viable” on their own and less likely to stay in a crap marriage than a couple generations before.
Which is really the main issue today. In past generations men were the only group that was primarily "economically viable" on their own and yet they chose families or to stay in their crappy marriage.
There's a big point in all this that people are avoiding. Men primarily had the control and decision making power in the past and a majority chose to stay and support their family even through the bullshite. Women do NOT have the same accountability and loyalty in modern society now that they have equal power.
I agree that everyone should be allowed to better themselves and improve their life if given options. BUT at some level there is a decision of loyalty vs upgrades. If all women are constantly looking for upgrades then loyalty gets thrown away.
Throughout history women/ relationships/ family help men better themselves as a whole.
You can have a man who has struggled in the past, is immature, finds a good partner, matures and becomes a good father. That's how men better themselves.
That same man gets divorced by his wife so that she can upgrade to someone making more money. What do you do? The guy started at rock bottom and did everything right and that's not good enough.
The reality is that loyalty and hard work is no longer always good enough for women. That's a huge problem.
You have a whole society of women that will say shite like "he's loyal, he works hard, and he's a good person, BUT...."
So yes while men as a whole need to do better, the aspects of loyalty and "being good enough" are fleeting even for men that are putting in the work.
The amount of men watching other men (with already better lifestyles) get walked on and screwed over is a causing a lot of tension and hesitation while also killing confidence. Meanwhile women are cheering other women to abandon relationships and simultaneously start thinking that they can do better too even if there's no real issues.
The current reasons that women are leaving relationships for are the same type of reasons that couples in the past used to work through issues and strengthen their relationship.
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/10/25 at 1:49 pm to HeadCall
A great man once said "stay away from the hoes and snitches."
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:03 pm to HeadCall
The good news is that the courts are finally coming around to the new age.
My brother has a friend who lives in Philly who got divorced from his wife. She is a highly successful VP of a large company. Her husband is a freelance online job guy. He was doing the bulk of the home jobs especially for his two kids.
The court awarded him primary custody and he got their home. He also got child support and alimony because she makes well over 10x his income.
She filed for divorce (fell in love with another guy at corporate who since dumped her) and she is furious about it. He now does not need to work at all and is living his best life.
My brother has a friend who lives in Philly who got divorced from his wife. She is a highly successful VP of a large company. Her husband is a freelance online job guy. He was doing the bulk of the home jobs especially for his two kids.
The court awarded him primary custody and he got their home. He also got child support and alimony because she makes well over 10x his income.
She filed for divorce (fell in love with another guy at corporate who since dumped her) and she is furious about it. He now does not need to work at all and is living his best life.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:05 pm to HeadCall
I think this can be misleading. While the filing may have been initiated, we don't know who left first.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:08 pm to Pettifogger
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But not marrying Misty who spends 20 hours a day on social media and posts things like "Jesus take the wheel, y'all" cuts your risk by half
Young men, listen to this guy. My wife saved my life in many ways.
Be picky. Be patient and get it right. It’ll save a lot of pain in the long run. Looking back it’s always been obvious, but young men don’t think with their brains.
ETA: advice goes for young women too
This post was edited on 6/10/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:10 pm to HeadCall
Lowest divorce rate among couples are gay men. Highest divorce rate is obviously lesbian couples.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:10 pm to AlxTgr
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I think this can be misleading. While the filing may have been initiated, we don't know who left first
If anything it shows that about 40% of women have poor judgement when choosing a partner. Of course men are probably equally as bad but men tend to stay with the family even after realizing they’ve chosen the wrong partner.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:12 pm to Sofaking2
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Highest divorce rate is obviously lesbian couples.
Lesbians are also the most violent.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:14 pm to HeadCall
y'all are a jaded bunch. I guess each and every one of you were perfect spouses and had fat bank accounts and your ex wives are all evil, crazy bitches.
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:16 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
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y'all are a jaded bunch. I guess each and every one of you were perfect spouses and had fat bank accounts and your ex wives are all evil, crazy bitches.
What’s was bitter about my post?
Posted on 6/10/25 at 2:18 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
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y'all are a jaded bunch. I guess each and every one of you were perfect spouses and had fat bank accounts and your ex wives are all evil, crazy bitches
First thread to read about women on the OT?
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