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737 Max software is still trying to Maximum Overdrive the plane
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:45 am
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:45 am
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As U.S. government test pilots ran through dozens of flight scenarios on the Boeing Co. 737 Max in recent weeks, a potential failure got their attention. The plane’s flight computer tried to push the aircraft’s nose down repeatedly during a simulator run, prompted by a stream of erroneous flight data. The Federal Aviation Administration pilot concluded commercial pilots might not have time to react and avoid a tragedy in a real plane.
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That flaw -- the latest discovered on the family of jets involved in two fatal crashes since October triggered by a different failure that pushed their noses down -- was revealed by FAA last month. It threw new uncertainty on the return to flight of the Chicago-based company’s best-selling model and sent its engineers scrambling for a fix. Interviews with people familiar with the failure suggest it triggered multiple, aggressive movements to lower the plane’s nose, which alarmed the FAA pilots and other officials.
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:46 am to RedRifle
Sell
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:48 am to RedRifle
They seriously need to scrap all of these planes. I don't care if they "fix" these issues. No way in hell I'm ever flying on one.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:48 am to RedRifle
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The plane’s flight computer tried to push the aircraft’s nose down repeatedly during a simulator run
It's because the plane pissed on the computer's carpet.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:54 am to Thias2685
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They seriously need to scrap all of these planes. I don't care if they "fix" these issues. No way in hell I'm ever flying on one.
They'll just rename them.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:54 am to RedRifle
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prompted by a stream of erroneous flight data
to be fair to Boeing, I'm sure there are millions of computer controlled systems that can be crashed with catastrophic consequences if I manipulate the data to be erroneous.
Most of them just never get tested in those scenarios.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:56 am to Thias2685
quote:It's not the hardware of the plane itself causing the problems. It's a software issue. Maybe they need to scrap the software and start over.
They seriously need to scrap all of these planes.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:57 am to RedRifle
It was a known issue when it was approved for service. Decision makers deserve prison time IMO.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:57 am to RedRifle
What’s really scary is the fact that the FAA didn’t ground these things on their own
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:58 am to RedRifle
Are all 737s grounded?
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:58 am to Pectus
No, only the MAX version.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 9:59 am to RedRifle
I bet the new autopilot features are a pet project for one or more people up the mgmt chain, and Boeing could easily revert to a 10+ year old system that’s proven, but so far the people up the chain are unwilling to let go of their “improvements”.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:00 am to Pectus
No, just the supermax. I flew a regular 737 on 4th of July and I wanted to make a T-shirt that said “I survived a 737”
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:01 am to RedRifle
Why dont they just extend the landing gears to put the engines in the correct spot????
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:01 am to LSURussian
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scrap the software
Easier said than done.
Because of the nose heavy design of the plane, the software is actually a key, integrated component of the hardware design of the plane.
That is an over-simplified statement, but Boeing has a huge challenge on their hands.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:07 am to athenslife101
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“I survived a 737”
how original, 737 is the highest produced airliner of all time and iirc, still has the highest safety record
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:07 am to athenslife101
How do I tell if my plane for my upcoming flight is a 737?
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:09 am to LSURussian
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It's not the hardware of the plane itself causing the problems. It's a software issue. Maybe they need to scrap the software and start over.
False. The software was created to try to override shitty hardware.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:13 am to Jester
I would add, more a shitty design.
I'm certainly no expert, but a lot of this (design, getting plane certified) was done to avoid calling it a "new" plane.
And of course, the FAA just lapped it up.
I'm certainly no expert, but a lot of this (design, getting plane certified) was done to avoid calling it a "new" plane.
And of course, the FAA just lapped it up.
Posted on 7/27/19 at 10:14 am to Pectus
737 Max is not a 737. Trying to make it fit into 737 is how shite went so bad.
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