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re: 70% Of Americans Would Wait To Get COVID-19 Vaccine, Or Wouldn’t Get One

Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:49 am to
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:49 am to
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It take roughly 5 months for the annual flu vaccine to be developed
Yes but that is working from a point of an already developed vaccine, there has never been a vaccine for any type of coronavirus. Apples to oranges.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106160 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:51 am to
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What are you basing this on?


CDC director said he expected a very rough winter, with enhanced spread as people spend more time indoors, and a co-occurring seasonal flu.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112689 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:53 am to
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Ehh, that's almost universally a dumb Republican thing in my circles
Shut the hell up

Anti-vaxers are def not in any measurable way a "dumb republican thing". Its a granola liberal thing

This is how we know you are in no way "moderate"

There is massive problems on the west cost because of the lack of vaccinated children
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 11:57 am
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26364 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:54 am to
I am not fat and don’t have underlying conditions. I ain’t in a rush to get microchipped
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54206 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:54 am to
I don't get the flu shot and I won't be getting the Covid shot
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76809 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:56 am to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40277 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:58 am to
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Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
51121 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 11:58 am to
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that's almost universally a dumb Republican thing in my circles.
What kind of republicans you hang out with? I have never heard that from a republican I hang out with...like ever
Posted by TigerPaul
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
2998 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Yes but that is working from a point of an already developed vaccine, there has never been a vaccine for any type of coronavirus. Apples to oranges.


Not at all. The strains of flu included in the vaccine change every year. If this is a "flu-like" virus then they are starting from the same point as every other annual flu vaccine.

To be clear I am not exactly rushing out to get one and think the whole thing is overblown. But I think the hysteria around a vaccine is also overblown.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:05 pm to
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rushed vaccine


I keep seeing this term, "rushed."

We haven't seen a pandemic of this magnitude coupled with this level of biotechnology previously. You can't really say what's rushed when you don't have an appropriate point of reference.

Biotechnology has never been more advanced than it is at this very moment so who are people on FB to say what they can do safely?
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26364 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:05 pm to
Drugs companies never frick up. See Fen-Phen, Viox, Thalidomide
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32995 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:06 pm to
I’ll get it. Thousands of people
Will
Have received it by then. Not really anything to be scared of.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14616 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:08 pm to
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I'll take "Things That Aren't Shocking" for $1000, Alex




I'll take things unlikely to happen for three fifty.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Do an equal number of dumb Democrats and dumb Republicans run in your circles?


No, but the post to which I replied was anecdotal anyway. Antivaxxers in the US are almost exclusively white and distrust the government - that group leans Republican quite a bit.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46805 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:11 pm to
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Antivaxxers in the US are almost exclusively white and distrust the government - that group leans Republican quite a bit.




Which is why the antivaxxer movement is heavily based on the west coast, a well known bastion of conservatives.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33964 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Drugs companies never frick up. See Fen-Phen, Viox, Thalidomide




Well we would never get new medications if companies were scared to frick up.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:16 pm to
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What kind of republicans you hang out with? I have never heard that from a republican I hang out with...like ever


To be fair, I try to keep my antivaxxer acquaintances incredibly limited.

However, in the poll in the OP, 45% of liberals say the get one right away compared with just 20% of Republicans. Trying to find more information on who said they would never get one.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46805 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:18 pm to
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However, in the poll in the OP, 45% of liberals say the get one right away compared with just 20% of Republicans.


You can't compare reactions to a possible vaccine for a virus that most people see doesn't affect them to the main antivaxxer movement based on the idea that vaccines cause autism.

Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26364 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:22 pm to
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Well we would never get new medications if companies were scared to frick up.

True. Couple points
1. I typically avoid pharmaceuticals if I can
2. Do you really want to take something that was made last week
3. Sometimes fricking is also deception (see quote below and Viox)

quote:

Merck withdrew the drug after disclosures that it withheld information about rofecoxib's risks from doctors and patients for over five years, allegedly resulting in between 88,000 and 140,000 cases of serious heart disease
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79873 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:22 pm to
I have studied FDA drug procedure probably more than the average person, and the length it takes for something to get approved usually has less to do with efficacy and safety and more to do with red tape.

Also, companies are Not required to report all testing to the FDA and it’s common for companies to either flood a testing pool to water down side effect results or just rested till they get what they want.

Anyway, long story short: you’re not any better off with a drug that took a long time. See vioxx.
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