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re: 70% Of Americans Would Wait To Get COVID-19 Vaccine, Or Wouldn’t Get One

Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:23 pm to
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Which is why the antivaxxer movement is heavily based on the west coast, a well known bastion of conservatives.



So I did some reading and apparently antivaxxers are difficult to pin down based on ideology. Liberals tend to be more concerned with the safety of vaccines while conservatives typically argue they should be free to decline them if they want. Neither group tends to dominate the overall movement from the polls I found.

So we're both wrong. Go figure.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:24 pm to
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However, in the poll in the OP, 45% of liberals say the get one right away compared with just 20% of Republicans. Trying to find more information on who said they would never get one.


Not wanting to be among the first to take this is nothing like a typical antivaxxer, but you knew that.
This post was edited on 7/29/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:24 pm to
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You can't compare reactions to a possible vaccine for a virus that most people see doesn't affect them to the main antivaxxer movement based on the idea that vaccines cause autism.



It's a data point for discussion. I'm not trying to draw some direct parallel.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:24 pm to
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nothing like a typical antivaxxer,


true

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but you knew that.


also true
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19930 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Likely the same people who have been in no hurry to go back to work and lose their $600/week too.


Haven't missed one day of work for the rona. As I've posted on here several times: vaccine for the rona? No thanks, I'll just let my immune system do what it does like I do every year for colds and the flu
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Likely the same people who have been in no hurry to go back to work and lose their $600/week too.


My entire department in the hospital has pretty much stated they won’t get it (at least initially) and we’ve been working with these patients daily for months.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15892 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:36 pm to
What do I need a vaccine for? I've been going out, without a mask, for months. No problems.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Not at all. The strains of flu included in the vaccine change every year. If this is a “flu-like” virus then they are starting from the same point as every other annual flu vaccine
But they have a starting point each year and are just adjusting for new strains. The coronavirus is not a bad strain of the flu, it’s more akin to a bad strain of one of the common colds(coronavirus) which there has never been a successful vaccine for.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:43 pm to
I will pass on bill gates way to insert a microchip
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25339 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:53 pm to
I just hope businesses don’t over rotate and make a vaccine mandatory...
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
10056 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:57 pm to
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I just hope businesses don’t over rotate and make a vaccine mandatory...





What goes into getting a vaccine required to attend public school?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a push for it.
Posted by TigerMomma4
Member since Mar 2020
471 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:05 pm to
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But they have a starting point each year and are just adjusting for new strains. The coronavirus is not a bad strain of the flu, it’s more akin to a bad strain of one of the common colds(coronavirus) which there has never been a successful vaccine for.


They actually did have a starting point for the 19 vaccine too. It is about 80% the same genetically as Sars1 (which is why 19 is also called Sars2). They had a vaccine ready for Sars1, that got shelved because the demand wasn't there. Meaning, they didn't do a good job of terrifying the public. This go round, they got the politicians to rile everyone up so that people would want the vaccine.

What a lot of people seem to miss in the news about the current phase 3 trials is that the first human trials were back in March. They couldn't have gotten there if they didn't already have the Sars1 vaccine as a base.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were backroom discussions where big pharma said "why should we do work on this vaccine when it'll all be over by the time it is ready to sell?" so the politicians said "we'll make sure it's still around and people are afraid.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40533 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 1:14 pm to
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What goes into getting a vaccine required to attend public school?


Ironically, Mississippi and West Virginia are the states that don’t allow for religious or philosophical exemption from vaccines.

Would’ve guessed that more conservative states would have less restrictive laws.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:15 pm to
According to this LINK several vaccines for SARS have been tested on animals, and “most of the vaccines improved the animals’ survival, but didn’t prevent infection.” Also states “some vaccines also caused complications, such as lung damage.” However the article does confirm what you said about not starting from scratch. Still though, it seems like we are starting way behind compared to the annual flu vaccine starting point.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22578 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:33 pm to
Good luck!!
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