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5th Circuit reinstates BRPD officer suit against BLM organizer - Alton Sterling protest
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:19 am
We haven't had a good BLM / Alton Sterling thread in a while. So here you go OT.
I agree with this ruling. You have the right to protest. You aren't responsible for the criminal acts of a third party. But if you organize a protest designed to likely cause trouble, then you are responsible. Stop blocking highways and throwing shite at police you bunch of fricks.
Shitty Advocate link you have to read in incognito unless you are one of the eleven actual subscribers.
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A Black Lives Matter organizer can't he held vicariously liable for the conduct of an unidentified person who injured a Baton Rouge officer during a protest after the 2016 killing of Alton Sterling, but the officer's negligence claim against the organizer can go forward, a federal appeals court said Monday in its third ruling in the case this year.
The police officer, identified in court records only as John Doe, does not allege that DeRay Mckesson threw the chunk of concrete that seriously injured him, but he claims Mckesson was the prime leader and an organizer of the July 9, 2016, protest outside Baton Rouge Police Department headquarters on Airline Highway.
In April, the 5th Circuit reinstated the suit and said the officer can sue Mckesson on the grounds he acted negligently by leading people to block a highway outside police headquarters.
"Given the intentional lawlessness of this aspect of the demonstration, Mckesson should have known that leading the demonstrators onto a busy highway was likely to provoke a confrontation between police and the mass of demonstrators, yet he ignored the foreseeable danger to officers, bystanders, and demonstrators, and notwithstanding, did so anyway," Circuit Judge E. Grady Jolly wrote.
I agree with this ruling. You have the right to protest. You aren't responsible for the criminal acts of a third party. But if you organize a protest designed to likely cause trouble, then you are responsible. Stop blocking highways and throwing shite at police you bunch of fricks.
Shitty Advocate link you have to read in incognito unless you are one of the eleven actual subscribers.
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:20 am to jbgleason
Good...and I hope the officer wins
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:28 am to jbgleason
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But if you organize a protest designed to likely cause trouble, then you are responsible.
So no personal responsibility?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:32 am to Packer
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So no personal responsibility?
It was clearly stated in my post and in the court decision that individuals are responsible for their own actions. But the organizer of the event ALSO bears individual responsibility for the overall event.
If you held a keg party in the middle of I-10 and someone got hit by a truck would you think that the party organizer bears some responsibility? The idiot that stood in the street obviously is at fault but the person who set the thing up should also be at fault. This isn't a difficult concept. Are you just being obtuse?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:34 am to jbgleason
The way Hillar Moore handled the protests is one of the forgotten stories of that time period. He should've been run out of office for that shite.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:35 am to jbgleason
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:39 am to jbgleason
Alton Sterling deserved to die btw.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:40 am to jbgleason
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:42 am to jbgleason
You have the gist right, but (and I didn't read the article) you missed why this is newsworthy.
The suit was reinstated months ago by a unanimous panel. But, on Monday, one of the most conservative judges on the Fifth Circuit (Judge Don Willet) had a complete change of heart. He changed his vote and said that he would have dismissed the suit unless the Louisiana Supreme Court established a new duty in this regard (which it hasn't).
That's the HUGE news for a few reasons. First, the case is pending at the Supreme Court (McKesson appealled after the original ruling but before the vote change) and now there is a super conservative voice saying the case should be dismissed. And second, it's VERY rare for this type of vote switching after the fact, so Judge Willet must have been really convinced his original vote was wrong.
The suit was reinstated months ago by a unanimous panel. But, on Monday, one of the most conservative judges on the Fifth Circuit (Judge Don Willet) had a complete change of heart. He changed his vote and said that he would have dismissed the suit unless the Louisiana Supreme Court established a new duty in this regard (which it hasn't).
That's the HUGE news for a few reasons. First, the case is pending at the Supreme Court (McKesson appealled after the original ruling but before the vote change) and now there is a super conservative voice saying the case should be dismissed. And second, it's VERY rare for this type of vote switching after the fact, so Judge Willet must have been really convinced his original vote was wrong.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:45 am to jbgleason
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But if you organize a protest designed to likely cause trouble, then you are responsible.
You really want to give this precedent to the SJW's and Never Trump skyscreamers?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:45 am to jbgleason
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Alton Sterling
Pretty sure his life didn't matter.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:46 am to Skillet
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Pretty sure his life didn't matter.
Not until race-baiters determined they could make a dollar off his dead body.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 11:55 am to jbgleason
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I agree with this ruling. You have the right to protest. You aren't responsible for the criminal acts of a third party. But if you organize a protest designed to likely cause trouble, then you are responsible.
considering that a bar owner or even a bartender can be held criminally and civilly liable for a drunk driver, this makes sense to me
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:23 pm to jbgleason
What was the name of the baw who was (or is?) a leader of BLM? I swear it was something like LeRay or some shite Lol
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:40 pm to geauxtigers456
DeRay. It’s right in the OP.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:03 pm to jbgleason
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DeRay. It’s right in the OP.
It's fricking UNDERLINED in the OP.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:15 pm to jbgleason
How dare those black people who we let into our beautiful land of cotton notice the cops are lynching them?!? Why, the utter ingratitude!
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:17 pm to USMEagles
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How dare those black people who we let into our beautiful land of cotton notice the cops are lynching them?!? Why, the utter ingratitude!
#bait?
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:18 pm to USMEagles
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How dare those black people who we let into our beautiful land of cotton notice the cops are lynching them?!? Why, the utter ingratitude!
How dare a career criminal continue to break the law then attempt to grab his illegal gun while struggling with police.
Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:20 pm to jbgleason
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Alton Sterling
Who?
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