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re: 50 years ago today, Martin Luther King, Jr was assassinated by James Earl Ray in Memphis
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:57 am to Salviati
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:57 am to Salviati
quote:
STOUT: This is bullshite.
But an old person sent it to him in an e-mail. Must be true.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:04 am to Don Johnson
It's so incredibly funny that stout believes the FBI. That horrible, fake FBI...
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:04 am to Salviati
That whole thing on Snopes is people bending over backwards to defend Marty.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:07 am to weagle99
I think reasonable people can read the chain email and Snopes and draw their own conclusions
Snopes is going to brush off anything they can. But regurgitating a chain email circulating on MLK's death anniversary is moronic. It's done by people who amazingly get burrs in their respective saddles when the country celebrates a civil rights leader.
I wonder what kind of people they are?
Snopes is going to brush off anything they can. But regurgitating a chain email circulating on MLK's death anniversary is moronic. It's done by people who amazingly get burrs in their respective saddles when the country celebrates a civil rights leader.
I wonder what kind of people they are?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:07 am to Sayre
quote:quote:
Did you miss the part where he beat the prostitutes?
I missed the part where you cited your scholarship on all these sweeping conclusions
quote:Stout doesn't care.
stout
That you swallow every bit of hearsay is all the proof anyone needs that you're just a fool with an agenda.
Unfortunately for you, the majority of people see right through you.
You'd like for his life's body of work to be diminished, but it never will be. Suck on that and then slink back to the Poli board with the other scum.
He clearly didn't bother to check whether his Facebook post was factual or not.
He's pleased he got a bunch of morons to quote and re-post his bullshite.
As usual, the bullshite comes on the front page, and the real facts come on the back page.
I doubt we'll get a retraction or apology.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:11 am to Pettifogger
Probably people who get sick of endlessly hearing King referred to in deity-like terms.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:13 am to weagle99
Who is your current deity? Anyone we may know?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:13 am to Salviati
Here is Michael talking about capitalism:
quote:
I imagine you already know that I am much more socialistic in my economic theory than capitalistic... [Capitalism] started out with a noble and high motive... but like most human systems it fell victim to the very thing it was revolting against. So today capitalism has out-lived its usefulness. (Letter to Coretta Scott, July 18, 1952)
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:15 am to weagle99
quote:Really?!?!
That whole thing on Snopes is people bending over backwards to defend Marty.
You clearly have an agenda against Martin Luther King, Jr.
Stout's bullshite:
quote:Snopes' FACTS:
3. King was under FBI surveillance for several years (until he died) due to his ties with communist organizations throughout the country. King accepted money from the organizations to fund his movements. In return, King had to appoint communist leaders to run certain districts of his SCLC (Southern Christian Leadership Conference), who then could project their communist ideas to larger audiences. A federal judge in the 60’s ruled that the FBI files on King links to communism to remain top-secret until 2027. Senator Jesse Helms appealed to the Supreme Court in 1983 to release the files, so the correct bill in the Senate to create the Martin Luther King Federal Holiday could be abolished. He was denied.
quote:
J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI considered Martin Luther King to be a threat to white America (terming him “the most dangerous Negro of the future in this Nation”) and spent years trying to dig up and manufacture derogatory information about him in order to publicly discredit him and thereby neutralize his effectiveness as a civil rights leader. The FBI asserted that the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) organization which King headed was controlled and funded by the Communist party and spent years trying to prove it, making King the target of an extensive surveillance program intended to gather evidence documenting ties between the SCLC and communists. But the Bureau was unable to uncover any credible evidence of active participation or funding between the Communist party and the SCLC, as David Garrow chronicled in his exhaustive study of Martin Luther King and the SCLC.
Stout's bullshite:
quote:
One of King’s closest friends, Rev. Ralph Abernathy, wrote a book in 1989 in which he talked about King’s obsession with white prostitutes. King would often use church donations to have drunken sex parties, where he would hire two to three white prostitutes, occasionally beating them brutally. This has also been reported by the FBI agents who monitored King. King was married with four children.
Snopes' FACTS:
quote:
Ralph David Abernathy did acknowledge in his 1989 autobiography, And the Walls Came Tumbling Down, that Martin Luther King engaged in extramarital affairs (evidence of which was sometimes recorded by the FBI through hotel room bugs), but he said absolutely nothing in his book about King’s supposed “obsession with white prostitutes,” King’s using “church donations to have drunken sex parties,” or King’s hiring “white prostitutes and occasionally beating them brutally.” In fact, Abernathy stated quite emphatically that he never knew King to have any sexual involvement with white women at all.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:22 am to Salviati
Conviently ignored the name change and plagiarism points huh?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:46 am to weagle99
quote:
Conviently ignored the name change
Already been addressed in this thread.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:49 am to weagle99
quote:
Conviently ignored the name change and plagiarism points huh?
Damn son. You clearly lack critical thinking skills.
You said:
quote:Cearly, the WHOLE thing on Snopes is NOT people bending over backwards to defend him.
That whole thing on Snopes is people bending over backwards to defend Marty.
The plagiarism charge is true. Most people know that. And what did Snopes say about it? Snopes said it was true. So, AGAIN, Snopes is NOT people bending over backwards to defend him.
As to the name thing, it's pretty unclear exactly what happened. And honestly, the name thing is harmless. Nobody cares.
What people care about is the headline of Stout's post:
quote:ALL of which was bullshite. And Stout's biggest complaint:
He was a communist, a drunk, and a whore monger.
quote:Was also complete bullshite.
Did you miss the part where he beat the prostitutes?
But hey, I hope you fell completely justified in shitting on MLK because there is some ambiguity about his first name.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:53 am to GetCocky11
Will Young and Jackson ever come clean about the events leading up to the shooting?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:28 pm to weagle99
What's your source, Weagle99?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:30 pm to kywildcatfanone
Will Young and Jackson ever come clean about the events leading up to the shooting?
--Meaning what? They've been interviewed dozens of times, and only conspiracy nuts think they have something to hide.
--Meaning what? They've been interviewed dozens of times, and only conspiracy nuts think they have something to hide.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:24 pm to stout
It's amazing how people will pull up the most ridiculous claims on MLK to paint him as a terrible person.
What's next, will you tell us about how he use to get in trouble at home for coming past curfew. Or maybe that one time he was 10 and stole a pack of gum from the convenience store. Or maybe even how he got detention in high school for getting into a fight 1 time.
The fact is, he was one of the greatest people to walk the earth. Most of the claims against him listed are not even true. They were just made by poeople who would do anything to tear down King. Sure, he liked to get drunk and bang hot women on the road. Who doesnt? Multiple presidents including the current have done the same. Sure, he plagiarized some of his doctoral work. Stop calling him Dr. King then, that's fine. It's a good thing he is honored for being a civil rights leader and not a top scholar.
He worked tirelessly until the day he die so that black people could be free in this country. He risked his life everyday so that black people could have basic rights that white people already had. He withstood things that 98% of people would never do or go through. He doesn't have to be a perfect man in order to be a great man.
What's next, will you tell us about how he use to get in trouble at home for coming past curfew. Or maybe that one time he was 10 and stole a pack of gum from the convenience store. Or maybe even how he got detention in high school for getting into a fight 1 time.
The fact is, he was one of the greatest people to walk the earth. Most of the claims against him listed are not even true. They were just made by poeople who would do anything to tear down King. Sure, he liked to get drunk and bang hot women on the road. Who doesnt? Multiple presidents including the current have done the same. Sure, he plagiarized some of his doctoral work. Stop calling him Dr. King then, that's fine. It's a good thing he is honored for being a civil rights leader and not a top scholar.
He worked tirelessly until the day he die so that black people could be free in this country. He risked his life everyday so that black people could have basic rights that white people already had. He withstood things that 98% of people would never do or go through. He doesn't have to be a perfect man in order to be a great man.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:30 pm to QJenk
Let's be honest here.
From a civil rights perspective, he was a pioneer and should receive praise for that.
From a personal perspective, he was a below average person for his personal conduct, and gives the name "Reverend" a bad name.
You can be both, and he was.
Edit: I'd probably rather have Rosa Parks as my civil rights example, but I don't know her personal life as well.
From a civil rights perspective, he was a pioneer and should receive praise for that.
From a personal perspective, he was a below average person for his personal conduct, and gives the name "Reverend" a bad name.
You can be both, and he was.
Edit: I'd probably rather have Rosa Parks as my civil rights example, but I don't know her personal life as well.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 1:45 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:
Edit: I'd probably rather have Rosa Parks as my civil rights example, but I don't know her personal life as well.
So if her personal life isn't up to your standards, it will change what she did on the bus?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 2:27 pm to GetCocky11
James Earl Ray didn't kill him
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