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re: 46% of EV owners in US want to switch back to gas cars
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:32 pm to Penrod
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:32 pm to Penrod
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Plus it goes 0-60 in 3.6 seconds.
Driven by the absolute slowest and most frustrating drivers out there. Getting stuck behind a Tesla is a fricking death sentence
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Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:33 pm to auggie
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Yeah, the hybrid makes the most sense to me.
I think so too. Just seems so simple. But maybe I’m wrong.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:38 pm to biglego
Are hybrid drivetrains not more complicated and harder to fix? Its the potential problems from both systems combined into one.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:45 pm to TheQuadrangle
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Are hybrid drivetrains not more complicated and harder to fix? Its the potential problems from both systems combined into one.
Locomotives and ships that operate close to shore have used Hybrid systems for quite a while, so I think there has been better development and real world testing.
Just a matter of adapting scale of vehicle/requirements.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:48 pm to RedPants
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Buying a commuter car I can charge for free and never have to pay for gas or engine maintenance is virtue signaling?
Where do you charge for free?
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:49 pm to biglego
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I think so too. Just seems so simple. But maybe I’m wrong.
They’re honestly the best of both worlds and the worst.
You can’t combined two technologies and decrease the number of failure modes. When they work they’re ideal. But also don’t forget that catastrophic failure is still very rare.
This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:56 pm to TheQuadrangle
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Are hybrid drivetrains not more complicated and harder to fix? Its the potential problems from both systems combined into one.
I think due to the distribution of wear and tear, hybrid drivetrains last quite a long time with fewer mechanical issues of all types. Think the Prius in NYC taxi cab service has proven to be extremely reliable and last hundreds of thousands of miles.
Posted on 1/18/25 at 11:56 pm to auggie
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Locomotives have used Hybrid systems for quite a while
No, they have not.
Locomotives are power plants on wheels. They don't store power in any way, shape or form.
No idea how ships compare, but I'd guess they are similar.
Diesel power plant (prime mover) turns a main generator (actually alternator but the name has stuck) generating electric power that is sent to traction motors (big electric motors) hung on each axle to drive the locomotive.
There is no hybrid there. No battery. It can't move under it's own power without the prime mover running.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:10 am to BuckyCheese
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No, they have not.
Locomotives are power plants on wheels. They don't store power in any way, shape or form.
No idea how ships compare, but I'd guess they are similar.
Diesel power plant (prime mover) turns a main generator (actually alternator but the name has stuck) generating electric power that is sent to traction motors (big electric motors) hung on each axle to drive the locomotive.
There is no hybrid there. No battery. It can't move under it's own power without the prime mover running.
I guess I misunderstand the method, but I appreciate you setting me straight.
I've never been around locomotive engines much, except at a steel mill where we used them, but did work on a few electric boats hands on.
They didn't have banks of batteries, but they had huge banks of capacitors powered by diesel generators.
I always assumed the purpose was to run quiet around populated areas without having to crank up the loud diesel engines.
Then adapt that to different requirements.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 12:38 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:03 am to TutHillTiger
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I am willing to try the hybrid which is both but apparently they don’t want to make those anymore
I have a hybrid pickup truck for a work vehicle and, to my suprise, I like it. Son of a gun gets about 60 mpg!
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:10 am to N2cars
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We won't talk about the worst depreciation on the planet...
As someone familiar with rental fleet in TX, can you imagine paying $60K+ for an EV, that people don't even want to rent, then trying to plead with the assessor that not only is it a rental car, that people hate renting & abuse, but the FMV has dropped down significantly below your county's internal depreciation schedule?
Assessor: Cost x's 90% in the 1st year x millage rate = Hire an attorney to fight
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:19 am to RedPants
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Free chargers at work
Ain't nothing free, except maybe VD.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:42 am to N2cars
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We won't talk about the worst depreciation on the planet...
New car dealer in Madison has a 2022 Model S Plaid with 29K miles listed for $59k.
That around 50% isn't it?
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:47 am to BuckyCheese
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Locomotives are power plants on wheels. They don't store power in any way, shape or form.
No idea how ships compare, but I'd guess they are similar.
I think a closer comparison could be made with old school diesel- electric submarines.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:48 am to BuckyCheese
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That around 50% isn't it?
Yes, but part of that was a new price reduction.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:51 am to Ace Midnight
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Yes, but part of that was a new price reduction.
I'm sure the guys that paid well over $120K, I just did a quick look and $135+ wasn't unusual for a 2022, are comforted to know part of the massive depreciation was due to Tesla dropping the price by over $30k to move more iron.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:35 am to bbeck
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Anything of distance is the dumbest task
Correct. I have a Y through work and although it's a blast to drive, it's borderline stupid to take anywhere outside an hour and a half radius. You literally have to plan hotel stays around charging, and cannot make "day trips" in any time efficient manner.
I'm fine driving it to and from work, and around town. But it wastes my time which costs far more than a few bucks in fuel a month
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:42 am to YumYum Sauce
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Correct. I have a Y through work and although it's a blast to drive, it's borderline stupid to take anywhere outside an hour and a half radius. You literally have to plan hotel stays around charging, and cannot make "day trips" in any time efficient manner.
Yep, said many times on here, if you can commute and charge, they seem fine, but i would never take one on any sort of trip. Lots of videos on charging anxiety and frustration. I don't need that in my life.
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:45 am to deeprig9
We have (had) a handful of EV charging stations at my work. That is until the homeless meth heads cut the charging cables off of them for their copper.... 
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 6:46 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:45 am to deeprig9
I’m cooler than you high school BS -
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