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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:15 am to Kujo
Probably because entry level jobs are now required to have 3-5 years experience everywhere
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:15 am to biglego
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We've been told for 40 years now that free trade is perfect. The obvious side effect was loss of good blue collar jobs but no one ever cared to address that.
Its a global economy, learn an advanced skill set or get left behind. Americans shouldnt be preforming these low skill level jobs anyway.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:18 am to MSMHater
no longer needed
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:19 am to NewIberiaHaircut
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I've always wondered how these meetings go. "Hey, let's make a job posting for this entry level position we have open." "Ok, but to make sure we find the best entry level candidate I'm going to make sure they qualify by having experience from another entry level job."
Don't forget the next conversation:
"Hey, we can't find any qualified applicants that meet our level of experience that haven't already taken better offers. Should we drop the experience requirement since recent grads are beating down our doors wanting this job?"
"Of course not! We can just hire H1B for half the price and none of the benefits! They can't complain because we'll just have them deported!"
"Why not replace all the workers with H1B's?"
"Great idea! We can even have them trained by our current employees then lay off all of them!"
"Brilliant!"
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:22 am to Bert Macklin FBI
It's not that hard to get experience in your field. Get an internship for your field two years before you graduate. The internship in itself is still a job interview, work your arse off and get a job after! I also worked at a restaurant at night to pay for other bills the internship wouldn't cover. This in my opinion is what separates the lazy kids from hard workers, and it did not go unnoticed.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:23 am to TigerSaint1
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This in my opinion is what separates the lazy kids from hard workers,
so the student to intern opening ration is 1 to 1?
Understand that a system has to be replicable.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:26 am to Kujo
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Understand that a system has to be replicable.
Not a capitalistic system. I understand that may not be what you want, but it is what you have.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:28 am to Kujo
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Kujo
No one cares about your subtle brag.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:30 am to barry
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Its a global economy, learn an advanced skill set or get left behind. Americans shouldnt be preforming these low skill level jobs anyway.
And that's been the line for 40 years. Which has led to this predictable result.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:30 am to shiftworker
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What degree do you have?
One completely unrelated to being an operator.
Data collection, organization, and analysis methods. Tons of money in the field if you move out of state. Instead I got married and priorities changed.
Last few years, I've been doing auditing and general compliance stuff.
Feel like they can't throw my application away fast enough.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:31 am to MSMHater
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Not a capitalistic system. I understand that may not be what you want, but it is what you have.
semantics, finding a job because of who you know is not replicable. Doing things not available to everyone isn't free market really. Not sure if there's an argument, just was saying that a "just do this" micro-type of approach to circumvent a macro level issue isn't a solution to the macro problem.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:33 am to TheDeathValley
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No one cares about your subtle brag.
I guess it was, but it's more butt hurt. I could have done this right out of HS without debt and still would have risen because of all the "slow" people in the industry.
I was just saying how I am part of the 45% and how I fell into it versus actively seeking it.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:34 am to Kujo
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"no degree needed" jobs
are easier to get, thus not requiring as much effort to succeed in rather than real, adult jobs
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:35 am to biglego
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And that's been the line for 40 years. Which has led to this predictable result.
Are you saying people with advanced skill sets can't find jobs?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:35 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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I work in the accounting field and most jobs I interviewed for listed as wanting a new college grad with 2 years experience.
This is pretty standard since there are so many opportunities (not enough, but a lot) for accounting students to intern somewhere.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:41 am to X123F45
Where (approximately) do you live, and to which pLants have you submitted applications?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:41 am to X123F45
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What degree do you have?
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One completely unrelated to being an operator
I don't think it matters what your degree is in. My dad's is an operator and his degree is in Social Work. I also have a cousin that's one as well and he doesn't even have a degree. As with most things, to get a foot in the door, it's who you know to get your information to the right people.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:42 am to X123F45
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Rando
take a few of the OSHA and safety cert classes
Confined space cert, fire watch cert, OSHA 30, etc,etc......when you add those to your resume, they will flag you for an interview. (easy to get, in Gonzales off Burnside and Cornerview I believe there's a cert place that gives you like 2 certs for a 1 day class for $185.
Operators must be safety first over wrench turners. You could always look into process tech, but the safety classes are quicker. Took Exxon test in November, and they brought me in for interviews. I'm just waiting on the final decision of who gets brought in this Summer.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:44 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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I don't think it matters what your degree is in. My dad's is an operator and his degree is in Social Work. I also have a cousin that's one as well and he doesn't even have a degree. As with most things, to get a foot in the door, it's who you know to get your information to the right people.
When did they get those jobs? Because these days, I'm pretty sure that unless you get a P Tech degree, I can't see people getting those types of jobs that easily.
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