re: 4 Year Old Dies After Finding Gun

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Or, if you are so inclined, I will take pleasure in teaching you a lesson.

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Oh piss off tough guy. You’re friend is an idiot.

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Just looked it up. You are four times more likely to accidentally shoot yourself with your own firearm than use it in self defense

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Where did you find these numbers and what were the number?

I’m not one to say let the government take your guns but damn we got too many rights. Any retard can walk into academy and purchase a gun in 20 minutes.

There’s too many tards out there that make responsible gun owners look bad.

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The dad is going to need psychiatric help and I’m suspecting you need

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Na, the guy calling for the dad to off himseof needs an arse kicking.

Once again 100% preventable if only for a little common sense.

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While he was unsupervised, the child got into the secure area where the gun was kept.

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In hindsight I wonder of the father still believe that place he stored his firearm was a "secure" location.

and once again

Accident / [Negligent Homicide]

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Where did you find these numbers and what were the number?

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PubMed

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Accidental shootings According to PubMed, for every time a gun is used in self-defense, there are four unintentional shootings. A Harvard Injury Control Research Center study found that more guns in a state lead to more accidental firearm deaths

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There are lots of different studies though to choose from and they all lead to the same basic conclusion that it’s more common a gun will be used in accidental shootings vs self defense

There are a TON of idiots that own guns. Moreso than criminals willing to put you in a self defense situation. It makes sense

I mean look at the numbers of accidental shootings

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In the United States, there are approximately 27,000 unintentional firearm injuries and 500 unintentional firearm deaths each year.

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I’m actually surprised there are 7,000 instances of people using guns in self defense a year. That’s a shite ton honestly

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Does this number include non-reported incidents?

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Yes. It concluded that guns for self defense are most likely to be “used” by not being fired at all. The study did say of course there can be unreported numbers on both sides obviously

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you need to up your situational awareness.

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My situational awareness is exactly why I don't CCW with an empty chamber. Unlike you, I can appreciate how quickly a situation can devolve and I don't imagine extra manipulation of my firearm is a smart strategy.

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For most of us, when we're home we're in low threat environment.

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No shite, threats usually come from OUTSIDE the home though which is why my CCW pistol is still loaded and I have something in 5.56 ready to go quickly too.

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Think of it like you're downrange on base at Al Udeid or Arifjan, these are low threat and you don't carry hot.

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No genius, I don't think of it like I am downrange because what is SOP on a military base has zero applicability to the threats concealed carry is meant for. Arming posture? Low speed, high drag try-hard wordplay aside, you really need to get better training.

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Believing there is 3,000,000 uses of guns in self defense a year is fricking lunacy

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Based on what data that you've produced? Exactly, nothing but your obviously low-info opinion....


Notice how the clowns only focus on the extremes and not the fact that the CDC admits that there are at least 300,000 DGU's and it's probably higher but it's really not something that a ceiling can be ascertained because so many legitimate DGU's are never reported.

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It just seems like complete common sense. The average person is never going to have an incident in a year where they need self defense with a gun. But there will be countless times in a year you can accidentally shoot your self

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Except there's nothing "common sense" in what you've posted. You obviously have no clue about how frequent DGU's are and your limited understanding seems to extend only to a bullshite group that popped up on your hurried Google search. Given the numbers, the simple fact that there are only 40-odd thousand injuries and deaths per year due to negligence in the context of many millions of gun owners with hundreds of millions of firearms and billions of rounds of ammunition being expended, the real common sense seems to imply that your arguments is junk. What you are attempting is pretty much as clueless and out of proper context as gun-control advocates that peddle the number of firearms-related homicides every year as "an epidemic of gun violence" without mentioning that 2/3rds of them are suicides.

Clames, you’re forgetting one big fact.

He’s an absolute expert on every single subject that’s ever been discussed on this board. Just ask him. He’ll tell you.

Children are endlessly inventive, capable, curious and far more attentive than most give them credit. Imagine if cats had thumbs. Children can defeat simple locks at very early ages, there are videos of young children defeating biometric gun "safes" with basic household items which is why I have and S&G mechanical lock (I don't have children running around my house either) on my safe. The father probably never imagined his child would recognize the holstered gun much less would be curious enough to get it out of the glove box to handle it.