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re: 35 Practical Steps Men Can Take To Support Feminism
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:54 am to The Third Leg
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:54 am to The Third Leg
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Women are perfect for the corporate world though.
Group think? CHECK
Servile Nature? CHECK
Smart but not too smart? CHECK
Power Hungry? CHECK
Technology is removing decision making from the equation. Women don't like to make decisions, they like them to be made for them. Sounds like a brilliant match.
Man, if you could somehow post this to the comment section of that blog.
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:19 pm to LSU0812
I have had many and most, not all, want the "special" stuff to continually grow. So the minute she takes things for granted I find another. Greed isn't always money.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:33 pm to GoGeauxGaux
Now, on a related note, SWAN was also a leader in the fight open combat roles to women and they succeeded. That's going to lead to more men getting killed because of womens' inability/limitations in combat.
//more accurate
//more accurate
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:39 pm to GRTiger
Oh boy
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Stayclassygetsassy • 5 days ago
Disagree with the contraception one. Obviously it's the womans choice but I can't imagine making him pay for all of it. We use condoms and it was a choice both of us made and we alternate who pays for them and who has to go into the small town rite aid to buy them. I think if something is for both of you then it needs to be equal.
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Pamela Stayclassygetsassy • 5 days ago
Why should the cost be equal?
In a society where men earn about 23% more than women on average, and that women disproportionately bear FAR in excess of half the physical/financial/emotional costs of pregnancy and non-barrier method contraception, why shouldn't men be willing to shoulder the whole cost of paying for contraception?
It is a super small gesture men can make, but something that at least recognizes and goes some way toward redressing these other vast, related inequalities that hugely advantage men/disadvantage women in so many aspects of our lives.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:42 pm to TheIndulger
God she's obsessed with this extra 23% that men earn relative to women. It's not our fault that the free market demands engineers, computer scientists,and other technical positions that men are good at
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:46 pm to TheIndulger
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women disproportionately bear FAR in excess of half the physical/financial/emotional costs of pregnancy
This is literally a complaint about being female and not about an inequality.
I reiterate: This comment is saying "it's tough to be a female during child birth so why shouldn't we get a financial break for it."
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:51 pm to LesMiles BFF
No shite. Some of these frickers just retard themselves. It's disturbing.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:56 pm to Hoops
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I have had many and most, not all, want the "special" stuff to continually grow. So the minute she takes things for granted I find another. Greed isn't always money.
I completely agree with you on this one. Appreciation from both parties is vital.
Sorry for my misunderstanding
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 12:58 pm to The Third Leg
I kinda want to troll comment on that site but I don't want to give my email out 
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:20 pm to LSU0812
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:28 pm to Tornado Alley
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I kinda want to troll comment on that site but I don't want to give my email out
Some surly lackey would publicly smear you like vaginal discharge.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:31 pm to GRTiger
I consider myself a feminist (or equalist, or humanist, whatever), and this article is bullshite. It skews a little to the extremist side where they overcompensate.
It's about being equal, not one "better" than the other (including women being "better" than men) - ugh!
It's about being equal, not one "better" than the other (including women being "better" than men) - ugh!
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:34 pm to Jet12
I an honestly I'm happy to have nevr had to have a full blown convrsation with a proper feminist.
My gf tried the whole "women should be totally equal" stance, I said fine, time for you to start paying for half of everything.
Game over with a quickness.
My gf tried the whole "women should be totally equal" stance, I said fine, time for you to start paying for half of everything.
Game over with a quickness.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:37 pm to Jet12
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I consider myself a feminist (or equalist, or humanist, whatever), and this article is bullshite. It skews a little to the extremist side where they overcompensate.
It's about being equal, not one "better" than the other (including women being "better" than men) - ugh!
Exactly this.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:41 pm to Jet12
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It's about being equal, not one "better" than the other (including women being "better" than men) - ugh!
But this is a hollow phrase devoid of any meaning. Equal in all contexts? How? That's absurd.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:46 pm to Jet12
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It's about being equal, not one "better" than the other
Yea, but how do you reconcile this with the fact that man are better at almost everything?
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:49 pm to Jet12
quote:Some of the thoughts in there are decent, though. Those are the ones that are just flat out chivalry. But there are some that I think are extreme.
I consider myself a feminist (or equalist, or humanist, whatever), and this article is bullshite. It skews a little to the extremist side where they overcompensate.
It's about being equal, not one "better" than the other (including women being "better" than men) - ugh!
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:58 pm to GRTiger
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Yea, but how do you reconcile this with the fact that man are better at almost everything?
I'm totally better than any man at household chores and other lady things
But, in all seriousness, women before the 1990s weren't treated equally in a very negative way. I think everyone should be held to the same standards, and those that meet them should prevail regardless of race, sexuality, or gender.
It's not that I want to be equal to or better than a man - I just want to be respected and held to the same standards as him, primarily in the workplace. If I don't meet the standards of a certain job or something like that, it should be based on my lack of skill or education or other abilities required for the job - not my gender.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:16 pm to LSU0812
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held to the same standards
there's the key, most women want what they perceive is being held from them, but in many cases, they can't meet the standards, so they go crying to the court system to have the "standards" altered(lowered,) to their level, and in many cases have been successful
ETA: most companies are so afraid of discrimination suits, that they willingly lower standards
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:22 pm to 777Tiger
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there's the key, most women want what they perceive is being held from them, but in many cases, they can't meet the standards, so they go crying to the court system to have the "standards" altered(lowered,) to their level, and in many cases have been successful
I completely agree with your statement about bringing it to the courts to essentially lower standards, and I disagree with the sentiment that those feminist have.
The reality is that, if held to the same standards, I wouldn't be able to do the same jobs as men. For instance, I'm way too small and weak to work as a warehouse stacker or something like that. Anything that involves a lot of strength, I won't be able to do and shouldn't be hired to do. That would also mean that I shouldn't be in line to be a warehouse manager. How can I lead people if I've never done the grunt work? It would lead To me having little respect in the field.
Anyone with realistic expectations knows that being held to the same standards shouldn't mean lowering them. I just don't want to (and honestly never have) be passed over for something I'm more qualified for than a man because I'm a woman.
I would venture to say the reason I haven't faced gender discrimination is because I strive to exceed common standards. Hopefully that can become the norm. Hopefully.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 2:24 pm
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