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re: 300k Chinese nationals study in US universities compared to 1k Americans in China

Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
8681 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:16 pm to
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Because one group has violent protests that disrupt campus life and threaten students.


Oh Jesus Christ, alright then.

Yall have a swell night.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
55041 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:20 pm to
Chinese have saved Mississippi College.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
934 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:22 pm to
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But why do they care about what religious group thinks what about another religious group? And why in the world would Harvard acquiesce to such an absurd request? That is not an ounce of their business. It wouldn't be their business if it was reversed.

Am I missing something?


Yes, you are. The information requested includes membership in groups that actively support international terrorist organizations. It is not an absurd request at all for FOREIGN students.

There is NO other country in the world where you can go get a student visa, then engage in civil disruptions, especially those disruptions where physical attacks have been carried out against a specific ethnic or religious group.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97176 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:28 pm to
U.S. universities are known as the best in the world and many foreigners who can afford it come here.

Who the frick wants to go study in communist China?

I agree thought we need to tamp down how many come here because they steal our IP
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
1873 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:29 pm to
As a prof in ag, most of the applications are foreign. Nobody wants to do this work, even if it’s funded by industry.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
52039 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:29 pm to
The top quartile of China alone outpopulates our entire country. Law of numbers.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1784 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:45 pm to
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I can tell you, this is the wrong hill to die on. Chinese nationals study here because we consistently welcome them and offer the greatest education. Part of that greatest education title is because of that demographic. There has been some short sighted ignorant shite go on with this administration, but this near the top. We aren't the greatest country in the world because we have Ol boy Landry workin the oil rigs. We are the greatest country because we develop the best minds, innovate greater than any other country, and research greater than anywhere in the world. At the root of that greatness is immigrant/migrant education. Hard to think of a situation where we are shooting ourselves in the foot more than this. All because our old arse populace is too stupid to realize that 80% of these "libs" are bots.

We are the greatest country because the people who founded this country inherited the greatest lessons of western civilization and put them to use in the form of an actually free system of government. White Christian Males came to that agreement after fighting the largest empire in the world.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
118157 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:48 pm to
Confucius Say man who go to bed with sex on mind, wake up with solution in hand
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8885 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:48 pm to
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The admin isnt going after Harvard because they think too many foreign students are going there (at expense of American students). They are going after Harvard’s ability to admit foreign students because Harvard is refusing to work with DHS to address Muslim foreign student antisemitism. If the admin wanted to categorically reduce foreign students in America, the could do so tomorrow via visa orders. They aren’t. They even gave the Foreign Harvard students the ability to transfer.


Harvard has had its issues with embracing identity politics to the extreme, but I seriously can’t believe anyone is believing this admin’s story that all this shite taxing their endowment, placing requirements on student acceptance, placing monitors in classrooms to watch the mandated conservative lectures are happening, taking away every fricking research grant they have because of antisemitism? Really? He’s doing it because Harvard didn’t bend the fricking knee to the admin’s (mistakenly sent) list of ridiculous demands.

Imagine if fricking Obama went after Liberty University like this. Holy fricking shite would all hell break loose on the right. Now? You motherfrickers are silent. You should be ashamed by this unprecedented authoritarian action.

Oh, and it’s not just Harvard. This admin is going after education, just as Erdogan and Putin did. Columbia relented to the pressure campaign. The Big 10 has created a conference wide “treaty” that if Trump goes after one, and they all fight it.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34595 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:48 pm to
America is so fricking arse backwards. I hope it can be fixed.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75386 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:49 pm to
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Oh Jesus Christ, alright then.

Yall have a swell night
You dont like the answer so you haul arse.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71647 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:00 pm to
It’s not just their failure to protect their Jewish students.

Harvard is blatantly violating the civil rights act. You can do a basic Google search about this.

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Asking colleges who accept federal funds to obey the civil rights act is not authoritarian.

Was it authoritarian when Eisenhower sent the NG to Arkansas?
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1784 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Oh, and it’s not just Harvard. This admin is going after education, just as Erdogan and Putin did. Columbia relented to the pressure campaign. The Big 10 has created a conference wide “treaty” that if Trump goes after one, and they all fight it.

He isn’t going after “Education” you useful idiot. He’s going after people actively seeking to destroy this country.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8885 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:04 pm to
The civil rights act whose enforcement arm was just dismissed by this admin?

I’m not going to defend what Harvard has been of late. It still does not give this admin the right to tell them what they can teach, who they can teach it to, and who will be doing the teaching. Again, Erdogan. The aim is isn’t antisemitism, the aim is control.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8885 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:05 pm to
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He isn’t going after “Education” you useful idiot. He’s going after people actively seeking to destroy this country.


Examples? Protestors? OMGzzzz….not protestors!!!!

Yall keep lapping up their bullshite and pretend it tastes good. No point discussing this with cultists.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71647 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:08 pm to
By the way, you buffoon, it isnt unprecedented.

Bob Jones University vs. the US
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
33001 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:10 pm to
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We aren't the greatest country in the world


Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71647 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:10 pm to
Hillel, the nation’s largest Jewish student organization, took the extraordinary step in 2024 of advising Jews to avoid the Harvard Campus because of how bad the harassment has become.

You can’t even hold a menorah lighting ceremony without (often foreign Muslim) students coming to stir trouble.

Harvard is *legally obligated* to keep Jewish students safe and they aren’t doing it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75386 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Yall keep lapping up their bullshite and pretend it tastes good
This coming from the fingers of a leftist is amazing after the past 4 years. Amazing.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71647 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:14 pm to
Mmmmbbbeeerr says these are fake leaked documents

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