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re: 30% of Ozempic users are crapping in the bed.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:34 pm to Yellerhammer5
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:34 pm to Yellerhammer5
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These weight loss drugs are particularly bad for people that don’t work out. They’re going to lose more muscle than through consistent calorie reduction, leading to reduced metabolism and requiring further reduction in calorie consumption to lose and maintain weight loss
we have talked about it quite a bit on the H&F board, well aware
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Exercise completely unnecessary for weight loss anyway.
nobody said it was
in the end though a lighter person, even if BF% isnt where it should be, is much better for overall health which is reflected in the health markers from bloodwork
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What is pretty much essential is reducing carbs from the standard American diet and replacing it with high quality protein and fats so that you get control of your cravings and aren’t constantly hungry while developing a healthy diet that is compatible with a healthy body weight. This takes a lot of trial and error for each person to find what is sustainable and works for them.
you absolutely do not have to cut out carbs, quit spreading that stupid shite.
low carbs is just a dieting strategy to control calories. I happen to use IF and Keto to get where i want when cutting but those are just strategies I use to control calories.
sure protein has to be priortized but the rest....doesnt matter hardly at all so long as its a caloric deficit
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:34 pm to bushwacker
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not anymore bruh! down 43 pounds and i can see my whole dick!
Share pics of that hog with the class.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:35 pm to lsu777
If you don't believe metabolic function is affected by what and when you eat, that's your ignorance to deal with. Caloric intake is one piece of the puzzle that is metabolism.
LINK
Dr. Benjamin Bikmin also has countless lectures you can educate yourself with too, Dwayne "Dumb as a Rock" Johnson.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:36 pm to lsu777
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lol cut off...there are like 3 new and stronger ones set for approval over next 9 months
I think he is confusing the FDA approved drugs vs the compound version pharmacist are making that LA is trying to outlaw
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:42 pm to subotic
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Dr. Benjamin Bikmin also has countless lectures you can educate yourself with too, Dwayne "Dumb as a Rock" Johnson.
777 is a gym rat and pretty shredded from what I understand.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:42 pm to subotic
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Dr. Benjamin Bikmin
is a mother fricking hack
and i have couple hundred studies to prove my position
ill up your dr bikmin and present to you
dr john berardi and dr layne norton or alan argon or dr mike israetel or dr karl nadolsky or dr scott stevenson or dr tinsley
and pretty much everyone that actually studies this and itsnt trying to just sell a fricking book.
like i said learn your role and maybe research who you are talking to before you just mouth off. promise i forgot more last week on the subject of nutrition, S&C, performance training then you have known your whole life. I do have multiple certs on this and pretty much my lifes passion.
but sure you know better and no better than every meta analysis that has been performed and equated calories and protein. you the man
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:44 pm to stout
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777 is a gym rat
i am this
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pretty shredded from what I understand.
at the moment...only compared to most on this board
running around chasing 3 young boys is not great for getting shredded. luckily summer is hear and school is out, so the hardcore shite start now
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:46 pm to lsu777
You shitting on Bikmin and then using Berardi and Norton is hilariously hypocritical.
You are EXTREMELY defensive about this so continuing this will be pointless. Enjoy your workout.
You are EXTREMELY defensive about this so continuing this will be pointless. Enjoy your workout.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:47 pm to lsu777
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you absolutely do not have to cut out carbs, quit spreading that stupid shite.
I never said to “cut out carbs.” There’s a lot of space between reducing the average American’s carb intake and being low carb or keto.
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low carbs is just a dieting strategy to control calories. I happen to use IF and Keto to get where i want when cutting but those are just strategies I use to control calories. sure protein has to be priortized but the rest....doesnt matter hardly at all so long as its a caloric deficit
I never mentioned IF or Keto. Calories in and calories out is true for weight loss, but the ratios do matter if you care at all about preserving muscle (which anyone should, regardless of whether they care about fitness or not). The reality is that for most people, a heavy carb diet is not going to keep them feeling full until the next meal and they will eventually fail. Reducing carbs and increasing proteins and fats will help greatly with that. Dieting while feeling satisfied all day is so much easier.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:52 pm to Yellerhammer5
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I never mentioned IF or Keto. Calories in and calories out is true for weight loss, but the ratios do matter if you care at all about preserving muscle (which anyone should, regardless of whether they care about fitness or not). The reality is that for most people, a heavy carb diet is not going to keep them feeling full until the next meal and they will eventually fail. Reducing carbs and increasing proteins and fats will help greatly with that. Dieting while feeling satisfied all day is so much easier.
in caloric deficit once you get to about 1.2g per lbs or somwhere around 3g per kg you are pretty much maxed out on muscle retention capability so long as you are lifting progressively.
the rest of the make up of the diet doesnt matter much as long as you are consistent in staying in a caloric deficit. couple dozen studies and meta analysis showing this.
but it does matter once you are around 12% body fat or below but i mean that aint alot of people and especially not a lot on a Louisiana based board for sure.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:53 pm to GumboPot
laughs in Olestra
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:54 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:1 Reddit user shite the bed. So they twist the headline a little, then OP twist it even more.
don't think EVERYONE with diarrhea is shitting the bed
30% will have at least one occurrence of diarrhea, but it’s not usually sustained.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:55 pm to subotic
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You shitting on Bikmin and then using Berardi and Norton is hilariously hypocritical.
You are EXTREMELY defensive about this so continuing this will be pointless
not really...the studies and meta analysis support norton and berardi and dont support bikmin.
like i said, show me a study where once calories and protein were equated someone lost more body fat with one diet over another.
in the end though we are fighting for the same thing, people to be healthier. do i think bikmin is prolly right in terms of optimizing health...yes, prolly....but at some point we have to look at whats applicable to the overall population. i personally use many of the things bikmin advocates for but its more personal preference and i understand not everyone can go nearly that strict
if they could, we wouldnt need the like of ozempic, wegovy, mounjaro etc.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:55 pm to GumboPot
Oh Oh Ohh Ohcraps you know ooooh, don't you believe it's not so.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:56 pm to udtiger
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laughs in Olestra
I walked out the Tigerland bar one night and went get a bag of them Wow Doritos from Circle K. Ate the whole bag on a dare.
Didn't leak.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:57 pm to GumboPot
From what I read on this board, people are mad that fat people exist and are weighing down our healthcare system.
Then they are mad that fat people are getting medical help to lose weight because it’s “cheating”.
Sounds like people just like to be mad.
Then they are mad that fat people are getting medical help to lose weight because it’s “cheating”.
Sounds like people just like to be mad.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 1:59 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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Sounds like people just like to be mad.
what you need to understand.....75% or more of this board is fat
fat people are unhappy
hence why so many on here are mad all the time
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:01 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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From what I read on this board, people are mad that fat people exist and are weighing down our healthcare system.
Then they are mad that fat people are getting medical help to lose weight because it’s “cheating”.
Sounds like people just like to be mad.
Bingo. Alot of these MFers here are a bunch of judgmental hypocritical cockmonkeys.
And they are worse than the "cool kids" in middle school when it comes to piling on whatever or whomever is deemed uncool.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:02 pm to mikelbr
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Bingo. These MFers here are are a bunch of judgmental hypocritical cockmonkeys.
And they are worse than the "cool kids" in middle school when it comes to piling on whatever or whomever is deemed uncool.
:bow:Posted on 5/25/23 at 2:03 pm to lsu777
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in caloric deficit once you get to about 1.2g per lbs or somwhere around 3g per kg you are pretty much maxed out on muscle retention capability so long as you are lifting progressively. the rest of the make up of the diet doesnt matter much
Thanks for proving my point. You make it sound that that’s a trivial amount of protein intake for the average American. How many typical dieters in the US are getting anywhere near that amount of protein per day?
And not all protein is the same. 200 grams of beef isn’t equivalent to 200 grams of plant based protein.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 2:07 pm
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