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re: 2020 C8 Corvette revealed in California (new photos included)

Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:50 pm to
Looks like a Ford GT
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 2:53 pm to
That C8 wishes it looked like a Ford GT!
If they tried for a GT look, it was a piss poor job.
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:00 pm to
Should've put the C6 rearend and round tail lights.
Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:00 pm to
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Looks like a Ford GT


Yeah, no...

But at least it doesn't have a frickin V6 out of a pickup truck...
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:02 pm to
Interior photos of the Corvette C8 from Car and Driver.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:03 pm to
That wall is just so dumb Otherwise I'm liking it.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:07 pm to
I like the wraparound interior setup for the driver.

Gorgeous car.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:10 pm to
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But at least it doesn't have a frickin V6 out of a pickup truck


Is a V8 out of a pickup truck any different?

ETA: I don’t care where an engine is sourced as long as it’s got the right hp and tq.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Those specs might just be good enough to sell a few here and there.


My question is will they break 40k in sales the first year. Also, I wonder if their margin is nearly as high as the C7 even when amortizing the R&D and tool up. It appears to be a great car but I am not sure where the sale conversions will come from that will get it over the ~150k unit per 5 year cycle the Vette historically tends to see. I hope it does well mainly because I want to see what the Z06/Z07 and ZR1 look like if the market is exceptionally string for them.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:16 pm to
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My question is will they break 40k in sales the first year.


I doubt they’ll have all versions of the C8 available until 2021. But I think they’ll sell every one they can build - likely at a markup - for a while unless the economy tanks.

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Also, I wonder if their margin is nearly as high as the C7 even when amortizing the R&D and tool up


I’m sure it costs a fortune to switch to a mid engine design, so the C8’s configuration will be used for a long time. The C9 and C10 will likely be of similar size and layout.

Supposedly a Cadillac EV supercar is in the works. Perhaps they will use this mid engine-structure as a starting point.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:20 pm to
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Yeah, no...

But at least it doesn't have a frickin V6 out of a pickup truck...


That sounds vaguely like the piss poor argument often lofted at the Chevy V8 with just 2 valves per cylinder and an ancient OHV arrangement and wet sump oiling.

Plus it isn't like it is a regular F150 and does pump out 650hp and 550 pound/feet.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31145 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:25 pm to
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But I think they’ll sell every one they can build - likely at a markup


The market adjustments don't help GMs bottom line. Again I think it will sell in the 150k units over 5 years but not sure where they will get more conversion sales. Chevy usually sells roughly its manufacturing capability at Bowling Green the first year of a new model but it has always tapered off after that, I honestly would be surprised if the C8 is any different.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:27 pm to
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Plus it isn't like it is a regular F150 and does pump out 650hp and 550 pound/feet.

What's a tuned up Coyote (F-150 motor) pushing these days?
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:31 pm to
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That sounds vaguely like the piss poor argument often lofted at the Chevy V8 with just 2 valves per cylinder and an ancient OHV arrangement and wet sump oiling.

Plus it isn't like it is a regular F150 and does pump out 650hp and 550 pound/feet.



My discontent with the Ecoboost V6 ( aside with reliability problems) is they cheaped out on a $500K halo car. Ford has better options at their disposal and they still went with a modded F150 engine.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:32 pm to
I thought they went with the EcoBoost because they were trying to get into LeMans
Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:40 pm to
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I thought they went with the EcoBoost because they were trying to get into LeMans


Quite possible. But a big part (rightfully so being a Halo car) was to add brand cache to the lower end Fords with the Ecoboost. ie. Advertising.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Quite possible. But a big part (rightfully so being a Halo car) was to add brand cache to the lower end Fords with the Ecoboost. ie. Advertising.

The advertising angle was pretty much stated from jump street
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:47 pm to
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is they cheaped out on a $500K halo car. Ford has better options at their disposal and they still went with a modded F150 engine.


Never mind the engines in the GT40 that vanquished Ferrari were.... wait for it...glorified truck motors.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:54 pm to
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Never mind the engines in the GT40 that vanquished Ferrari were.... wait for it...glorified truck motors.



Different time period as well, Ford is in the thick of it as for as technology. Back then, not so much.

My point remains, they built this car from scratch and still chose a V6 when a FPC beast of a V8 is in its arsenal.
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
4685 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:12 pm to
That thing is ugly
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