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re: 2018 Law School Rankings Out
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:25 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:25 pm to Pettifogger
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US News isn't even entirely incoming score based. UA jumped a lot of schools that were harder to get into during their meteoric rise over the last 5-7 years.
I agree about Above the Law, which looks to things like reputation in the legal community, clerkships, etc. in a far more accurate way than USNWR.
Okay...so, you prefer the methodology that ranks UA #26 over the other methodology that ranks UA #26?
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:38 pm to Jizzy08
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What's the general consensus on Mississippi College's Law School? I'm not in the law game or looking to get into it...I went to MC for grad school in bio and just curious.
They offer civil law course, so people from Monroe go to Jackson for school since it is only two hours away.
Ole Miss & MC Law seem to float around 90% bar pass rate in MS.
Worse part of MC Law is paying all that money to have to live in Jackson.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:01 am to Sasquatch Smash
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Back in October, I drove from Little Rock to Atlanta and then back to Baton Rouge. That guys billboards aren't just multiples in once location, he covers the whole state. He had signs up in northern Alabama as well as central/southern Alabama. He is most certainly getting his name out there.
He's opened sixteen offices in 5 states now. It's getting hard to escape him.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:03 am to TheOcean
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Tulane #51
LSU #96
Loyola #142
Curious. Which one of these has the highest passage rate for the bar?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:37 am to Fishwater
Jackson isn't as bad a place to live as people make it out to be. I would absolutely go back there for my residency. Madison, Clinton, Ridgeland are great places to be.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:43 am to Jizzy08
Are you comparing Jackson to Syria or Iraq when you say it isn't that bad of a place to live?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 10:47 am to CorporateTiger
How much time have you lived in Jackson and surrounding areas? Yes, downtown Jackson is a shite hole. However, Madison, Clinton and Ridgeland are all very nice places to live and easily within driving distance if you are required to go downtown.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:01 pm to TheOcean
2 of my best friends went to top 10 schools.
OT ballers
OT ballers
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:06 pm to member12
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Tulane #51
LSU #96
Loyola #142
quote:
Curious. Which one of these has the highest passage rate for the bar?
LSU by a mile
Posted on 3/15/17 at 12:18 pm to The Mick
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Alabama #26
Florida #41
Shocking
Alabama's law school is ranked high due to the absurdly high regional power. The entire state is run by Alabama law school graduates
Having an Alabama law degree is about as valuable as a Harvard law degree in this state
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:22 pm to Creamer
Sorry to bump an old thread, I'm not sure if you're an alumni of the law center, or know someone that attends currently or has attended, but getting out of the DCL program w/ less than 2 civil law based classes is false.
Students are not able to opt out of the DCL program until their second year, by then first year students will have taken three civil law based courses (four if you want to count torts, as La torts is analyzed differently from common law torts):
-Legal Traditions: Louisiana's Experience
-Obligations
-Civil Law Property
The Legal Traditions course is interesting, but it has absolutely ZERO bearing on anything should a student choose to not practice in Louisiana (it's very poorly justified by professors as a required 3hr credit course, imo.), the central focus of the course is the impact of Roman law and Anglo-American law on Louisiana legal system. It's simply a history course. It's really interesting, don't get me wrong, and I personally did well in the class, but it should not be a 3hr REQUIRED 1L course, at all. I don't even think it's applicable even if you want to stay in Louisiana.
Obligations is the Civil law of conventional
obligations including certain aspects of the contract of
donation; classification of contracts; consent; offer and
acceptance; vices of consent and lesion; cause; effect of
obligations; damages; conditions; proof, discharge and quasicontracts;
including comparative point of view; Roman and
French materials. In plain terms, it's civil law contracts, and..just not relevant.
Civil law property, again, includes things, ownership, usufruct, servitudes,
occupancy, possession, prescription. This is probably very relevant if one chooses to stay and practice in Louisiana, but for an out of stater, it isn't.
As an out-of-state, minority student currently attending LSU Law, I have every intention to return home to Texas, and I will have to waste an upperclassmen course in the fall to take common law property since it's on the Texas bar, if I had a common law track, I could've used that course to take something else of interest to me (like antitrust law or something)
Not having a common law track for students like myself and many others that do not intend to practice in Louisiana, loading up first year students with pointless courses like legal traditions, obligations, etc. (Tulane 1Ls take 4 doctrinal courses plus LRW both fall and spring and are not forced to take obligations and may instead take contracts 2), lack of research materials in the library is what is going to prevent LSU from becoming an elite law school, and lack of out of state attendees gives a prospective student from the outside looking in that LSU law is a very insular place that doesn't welcome out of staters, especially minorities like myself. (I had this impression my first semester and didn't feel welcome, at all.)
It has the name, the LSU pedigree is one thing that attracted me to the school, and the potential is there, but hiding behind budget cuts from the state and emphasizing how much they're doing with little funding can only be stretched so much when internal changes such as the changes to the curriculum above can be made without relying on gov't funding and just a matter of meeting as a faculty to make the changes.
And no, I'm not at the bottom of my class with no job lined up so I'm complaining about the curriculum because I didn't beat the curve. I do believe LSU can rise to becoming a Top 50 or even beyond that, but things like the points above are hampering it from doing so, and need to be taken into serious consideration and addressed.
It's only a "bargain" to me as an out-of-stater b/c of the massive scholarship I got, other than that, at or near sticker I don't think it's a bargain at all. But, they have to hike it up due to budget cuts from the state, I understand that. But, they're not looking closely internally cogs hampering the program from becoming what it could potentially be.
Students are not able to opt out of the DCL program until their second year, by then first year students will have taken three civil law based courses (four if you want to count torts, as La torts is analyzed differently from common law torts):
-Legal Traditions: Louisiana's Experience
-Obligations
-Civil Law Property
The Legal Traditions course is interesting, but it has absolutely ZERO bearing on anything should a student choose to not practice in Louisiana (it's very poorly justified by professors as a required 3hr credit course, imo.), the central focus of the course is the impact of Roman law and Anglo-American law on Louisiana legal system. It's simply a history course. It's really interesting, don't get me wrong, and I personally did well in the class, but it should not be a 3hr REQUIRED 1L course, at all. I don't even think it's applicable even if you want to stay in Louisiana.
Obligations is the Civil law of conventional
obligations including certain aspects of the contract of
donation; classification of contracts; consent; offer and
acceptance; vices of consent and lesion; cause; effect of
obligations; damages; conditions; proof, discharge and quasicontracts;
including comparative point of view; Roman and
French materials. In plain terms, it's civil law contracts, and..just not relevant.
Civil law property, again, includes things, ownership, usufruct, servitudes,
occupancy, possession, prescription. This is probably very relevant if one chooses to stay and practice in Louisiana, but for an out of stater, it isn't.
As an out-of-state, minority student currently attending LSU Law, I have every intention to return home to Texas, and I will have to waste an upperclassmen course in the fall to take common law property since it's on the Texas bar, if I had a common law track, I could've used that course to take something else of interest to me (like antitrust law or something)
Not having a common law track for students like myself and many others that do not intend to practice in Louisiana, loading up first year students with pointless courses like legal traditions, obligations, etc. (Tulane 1Ls take 4 doctrinal courses plus LRW both fall and spring and are not forced to take obligations and may instead take contracts 2), lack of research materials in the library is what is going to prevent LSU from becoming an elite law school, and lack of out of state attendees gives a prospective student from the outside looking in that LSU law is a very insular place that doesn't welcome out of staters, especially minorities like myself. (I had this impression my first semester and didn't feel welcome, at all.)
It has the name, the LSU pedigree is one thing that attracted me to the school, and the potential is there, but hiding behind budget cuts from the state and emphasizing how much they're doing with little funding can only be stretched so much when internal changes such as the changes to the curriculum above can be made without relying on gov't funding and just a matter of meeting as a faculty to make the changes.
And no, I'm not at the bottom of my class with no job lined up so I'm complaining about the curriculum because I didn't beat the curve. I do believe LSU can rise to becoming a Top 50 or even beyond that, but things like the points above are hampering it from doing so, and need to be taken into serious consideration and addressed.
It's only a "bargain" to me as an out-of-stater b/c of the massive scholarship I got, other than that, at or near sticker I don't think it's a bargain at all. But, they have to hike it up due to budget cuts from the state, I understand that. But, they're not looking closely internally cogs hampering the program from becoming what it could potentially be.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:30 pm to TheOcean
meh, i went to southern and passed LA and TX bar back to back, i'm happily employed, goes to show that rankings mean nothing, plus no soul crushing debt
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:34 pm to lsupride87
Alex went to freaking Bham School of Law. He settles tons of cases pretty cheap that it hurts others in the biz.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:36 pm to Fishwater
Miles School of Law is a complete joke.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:37 pm to SilentReviver
Well this is a weird as frick bump with a very specific name for an alter. Are you a school administrator or something? Also
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:38 pm to Breesus
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Are you a school administrator or something?
He's a reviver of old threads. And a silent one at that.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:41 pm to SilentReviver
Wtf is going on in here
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:54 pm to SilentReviver
Omg nobody cares
Enjoy your diversity hire and your 2500 billables at a sweatshop and shut the frick up and drink like the rest of us.
Enjoy your diversity hire and your 2500 billables at a sweatshop and shut the frick up and drink like the rest of us.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:59 pm to boosiebadazz
Figured this is a good thread to ask this question, how does the MS bar compare to the LA bar?
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