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re: 2 Officers shot in Ferguson...Video in OP

Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:49 am to
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:49 am to
I had no intention of derailing this thread, I just didn't want erroneous information relative to the situation getting put out there. I am not going to list my bona fides on an open forum and it would be pointless anyway because I could write anything I want and it would be meaningless. I have hundreds (if not thousands) of hours of training/operational experience and to read something that says "head shots are never taken" is ludicrous. With reference to Kyles comments, he is referring to sniper engagements in open combat which is only one type of sniper employment.

Google T-Zone shot and Flaccid Paralysis (there is an OT term if I ever heard one) for a little education. How do I know these terms? Think about it.

That being said, you might want to reflect on the practice of stating facts based off of reading books and because you "know stuff." I mean, really, reflect on that for a minute. Enough of the derail, throw snarky comments back if you want as I am done commenting on this issue.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60918 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:51 am to
quote:

And there we have it. Lose the argument? Call names. Speaks volumes on your tactics.


I didn't call you anything. I asked you how you viewed yourself and your own mental capabilities.

Care to answer?

As for as losing the argument. There isn't one to begin with. To answer my own question - try zero compared to thousands.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:51 am to
Opening sentence mentions not intentionally derailing thread

Followed by three paragraphs of completely irrelevant information to the thread
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:52 am to
Your opinion of disproportionately and mine are obviously different. I want the cops to maintain the controlling power. Where you draw the line with disproportionately is an opinion, not a fact.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:52 am to
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can you put yourself in the cops shoes and see it from their perspective and understand some of the animosity that they might have towards certain African American communities?



this. There is a lack of empathy from both sides.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:52 am to
Meh. You have to read back to see what that was about.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:53 am to
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Are you dense?
quote:

Call names.
JC dude
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59237 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:53 am to
I know, just giving you a hard time
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:55 am to
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Salmon



Yes, I can. But what do you think caused all this. I'll give you a hint, well frick it, I'll just tell you. Slavery, segregation, Jim crow laws.

It's very tough on both sides. That's why things will not get better however. Neither side will budge. As stated earlier, it's a powder keg.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:56 am to
Maybe I should have clarified, but a head shot is not the preferred shot. If there is no body armor or explosives on a target's chest, a sniper would pass up a center mass target for a smaller one?



By the way, way to misquote what I said
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 10:00 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60918 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:56 am to

Disproportionately: 1. not proportionate; out of proportion, as in size or number.

280 million law abiding citizens own how many armored tanks, drones, weaponized aircraft, battering rams?

Compared to 1 million police?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:58 am to
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OK, now answer my question. I've never been intimidated by a cop.


My last interaction with a police officer was an abandoned car sitting in our driveway at work. I got in the vehicle to see if I could put it in neutral so my guys could push it out of the way. I was then approached by a cop who wanted to know what I was doing and that if that car was used in a crime he would arrest me.

Cops watch too many cop shows. If they need(and I think they do) special units/divisions then so be it. But everyday interaction with the public does not require a SWAT/CSI officer.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20146 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 9:59 am to
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2 Officers shot in Ferguson...Video in OP
Maybe I should have clarified, but a head shot is not the preferred shot. If there is no body armor or explosives on a target's chest, a sniper would pass up a center mass target for a smaller one?



Seriously, go start a thread about this on the Tactical Board (OB?) and I will be happy to comment. For now, let's just get our Jimmies Rustled over police militarization, racism and the impending Race War or wherever this thread is headed.


ETA: "explosives on a target's chest"? Hell yeah that would be the first thing to shoot. LoL.
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:00 am to
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I'll give you a hint, well frick it, I'll just tell you. Slavery, segregation, Jim crow laws.


How many slaves do you know? When was the last time you were told that you weren't welcome in a restaurant because of your skin color?
Everything that was wrong with America 50-200 years ago has been corrected to the point where minorities have MORE opportunity to have a quality life than the majority. What more do you want?
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:01 am to
Slavery made a large portion of African Americans disobey the law in modern day?

Damn. I learned two things today.
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:01 am to
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Now, the criminals are armed to the hilt with military type weapons, body armor, etc.


Wat?

They show that clip of the bank robbers from CA back in the 90s with homemade body armor and now everybody thinks all criminals have bazookas and shite.

How often do you hear of criminals armed to the hilt w/ military weapons and body armor, Fetus? The only people I see like that on a daily basis are the police.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60918 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:01 am to
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Yes, I can. But what do you think caused all this. I'll give you a hint, well frick it, I'll just tell you. Slavery, segregation, Jim crow laws.


American Indians laugh at this. I see them shooting cops all over the country too.

Based on your logic, I am a descendent of two different indian tribes so I can shed WAY MORE blood than you.
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 10:02 am
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:02 am to
How many small arms do those 280m own vs 1m?

Gotta counterbalance that number BAW!
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:02 am to
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But what do you think caused all this. I'll give you a hint, well frick it, I'll just tell you. Slavery, segregation, Jim crow laws.


y'all can't blame everything on this forever

quote:

It's very tough on both sides. That's why things will not get better however. Neither side will budge.


if one side decided to take a stand and better themselves as a community, I promise you, things would get better

Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 3/12/15 at 10:02 am to
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Festus


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