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re: 2 million covid-19 vaccinations now administered. How many severe reactions?

Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:55 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:55 am to
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Well, shite, didn't happen on TD, so it must not have happened. Come on man
it just has nothing to do with the current discussion and can’t be used too debate someone not using those points. It’s called a straw man.

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If getting the vaccine doesn't prevent you from still getting the virus, and we will also still be required to wear masks and social distance...what's the fricking point?

Your “if” presumption is wrong. Once enough people are vaccinated, the restrictions will go away. That’s part of the point, as well as reducing the prevalence of the virus that makes people sick to varying degrees up to and including death.
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Either the masks work or they don't. Either social distancing works or it doesn't. Either the vaccine will work, or it won't.
Such a stupid stance. What’s does work mean with each? No one says masks or social distancing alone will work to eliminate the virus. Because we know how viruses spread, they can clearly help slow the spread. As for the vaccine, the early evidence is that the two available in the US work really well.
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If we are still going to be in lockdown types of environments
Were aren’t once the vaccine is effectively distributed.

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People are so fixated on the "case numbers", they forget there are other negative side effects of lock downs and letting government control what they have been controlling.
You can believe this and still understand that getting the vaccine makes sense.

This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13298 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:55 am to
Friends,

It was a simple question. Does anyone know how many severe reactions there were? Are we talking five, ten, twenty? How many deaths? It seems that for a population wanting to end a viral pandemic and all the consequences that come with it, a vaccine against that virus would be welcomed.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 11:56 am
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:56 am to
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Goal posts will surely find new landing spots

Funny how you only notice this when you want to.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:56 am to
It only gives you pause because you don’t understand it.

It’s mRNA which is translated in the cytoplasm. It doesn’t get near your DNA which is safely inside the nucleus. It doesn’t change anything or really “hijack” anything- that word implies the machinery can’t be used for anything else.

It gives your cell a blueprint to make proteins. Your cell makes proteins. Your body remembers the proteins to attack them again later. Your body will never again make those proteins once those cells use the blueprints once.

Yes, the technology itself can be used to do funky shite but so can any medical technology. All drugs are basically small doses of poison that we give you to do something we consider “therapeutic” before it turns into a problem.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:56 am to
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Simple, accept the fact that this virus is going to kill people. Leave the country open and let the virus run its course.

Here we are a year later, and we are supposedly still seeing surging numbers. The lockdowns were not worth it.
Assuming all of this is true, none of that is evidence that suggests this would be over.
Posted by Hidden Tiger
Member since Jun 2019
1111 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:02 pm to
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It only gives you pause because you don’t understand it.

It’s mRNA which is translated in the cytoplasm. It doesn’t get near your DNA which is safely inside the nucleus. It doesn’t change anything or really “hijack” anything- that word implies the machinery can’t be used for anything else.

It gives your cell a blueprint to make proteins. Your cell makes proteins. Your body remembers the proteins to attack them again later. Your body will never again make those proteins once those cells use the blueprints once.

Yes, the technology itself can be used to do funky shite but so can any medical technology. All drugs are basically small doses of poison that we give you to do something we consider “therapeutic” before it turns into a problem.


this is what happens when really average mid-wits get indoctrinated by an industry that is ultimately completely corrupted and self serving.

the amount of nurse-bois and drunk- sloot nurses who are now intellectually gifted as it refers to explaining complex biological shite like this is hilarious and nothing short of a psychological field day for anyone analyzing the behavior.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35088 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:04 pm to
2 million first shots. Of course they aren’t gonna put the bad stuff in the first one. Let’s see how the next few weeks play out.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13298 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:04 pm to
Friend,

You have the floor. Please explain to us how this vaccine produced by several independent drug companies is part of a greater plan to inject us with biotechnology to control us. I want the details.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:05 pm to
Says the guy that believes Bill Gates is using the vaccine to implant chips and turn everyone into a transhuman state.
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8313 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:08 pm to
I lost both legs, friend.
Posted by JuliusSeizure
Rome
Member since Dec 2020
237 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:09 pm to
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the guy that believes Bill Gates is using the vaccine to implant chips and turn everyone into a transhuman state.


There goes my hero !
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Here we are a year later, and we are supposedly still seeing surging numbers. The lockdowns were not worth it.



Or, it could be that lots of people still gathered in groups for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Our cases started surging right after Thanksgiving.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:14 pm to
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If such a small number of Covid deaths is unacceptable I would also think a small number of sever reactions is unacceptable as well, no?


There are severe reactions to nearly every medication available.

I'm betting you and everyone else has a bottle of Tylenol in your cabinet. Have you read the potential side effects of that? If that drug were to be released today it'd scare the hell out of a lot of people. But it's been around for decades so no one cares.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15298 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:15 pm to
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If such a small number of Covid deaths is unacceptable I would also think a small number of sever reactions is unacceptable as well, no?



Did you just compare someone dying to an allergic reaction?

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:21 pm to
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 it does hijack your body's own genetic processes and materials to basically manufacture some hopefully-impotent facsimile of the virus itself
Nope.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
1942 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:21 pm to
Our company has given 300 doses, no severe reactions
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:32 pm to
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If getting the vaccine doesn't prevent you from still getting the virus,
It does with 95% efficacy
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27395 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:37 pm to
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imagine pretending to be logical while equating an allergic reaction to death.



any allergic reaction would be more intense than 99% of covid infections.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:38 pm to
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any allergic reaction would be more intense than 99% of covid infections.
But much less intense than death
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 12:39 pm to
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Had an anaphylactic reaction in my health system.


Received mine on 12/23/20 and now I don’t want to see my extended family again for 11-12 months.

Weird
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