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re: 150 plus armed militia takes over Oregon federal building (story developing)

Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:35 am to
You give open carry an inch and it wants to take a mile.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:39 am to
White idiots.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49520 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:44 am to
quote:

to this day, I can't believe Janet Reno and Bill Clinton didn't get more heat for it.

It is unbeliveabe what the 'progressive' mentality will accept in their 'leaders' behaviors.

So long as their pet peeve is paid the obligatory lip service, nothing else matters to them.
Posted by TheSassyOne
Member since May 2014
132 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:06 am to
Thugs gonna thug. Militia my arse!
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:27 am to
The FBI has a pretty good track record with killing these clowns off
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:28 am to
Blacks protest with riots with looting and vandalism. They destroy their own neighborhoods.

Whites protest by having organized militia take over federal buildings. We still do it better.
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:29 am to
quote:

To bring everyone into the loop in TL;DR style:
Prologue: Cliven Bundy is a rancher from Nevada that was involved in an armed standoff with the federal government. There was a long standing fight about the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) denying ranchers what they, the ranchers, thought was their right to let their cattle graze on government land. Bundy felt that he didn't have to pay the tax for letting his cattle graze on the land so he stopped paying it back in the 1990s. Many ranchers called this a major overreach by the feds and it gathered support of many far right conservatives. Some went so far as to show up armed and prepared to fight the federal government. The federal government did get a court order to impound the cattle, however, the BLM decided to not enforce the order: "Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public."
More detailed story is here: LINK and here LINK
Chapter 1: The Arsonists
Some ranchers made a fire that spread to BLM land. They also set a fire to destroy evidence of deer poaching. The federal government charged them with arson and managed to get a conviction. They were sentenced and served the sentenced issued initially. However, the sentence was lengthened to 5 years, which is the mandatory minimum for felony arson, and were forced to go back. Cliven's sons calls on his army from his protest to show up and help protest these ranchers going to jail.
More detailed story here: LINK
Chapter 2: The Bundy's are Back!
The Bundys gathered some of these protesters to take over a wildlife refuge in Oregon. They have said they plan on living there for years and have called on others to join them to fight. Someone who joined them has sent a "goodbye video" to his family. One has said "I want to die a free man." Rumor has it that there are over 100 armed fighters and they have stockpiled supplies to survive.
Chapter 3: A Bundy Speaks
One of the sons have posted a video to their Facebook page and outlined that they are protesting the federal government putting the people in poverty by regulating the natural resources they need for their businesses. They also said that if they do not stand up now they might not be able to in the future. He also stated he did not want to cause anyone harm and confirmed that they are armed.
If you want to see the video it is on the Bundy Ranch facebook page.
I have been making edits with the feedback received from other users. Thanks to all who have commented with facts that you felt were relevant but excluded/forgot on my part. I have made about 20 edits so far to add them in while trying to keep it a TL;DR


Taken from /u/ImPinkSnail on reddit
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10971 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:29 am to
They still salty about BLM
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80686 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:38 am to
Pretty shitty that they served their time and then a judge decided they didn't serve enough after the fact.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:41 am to
The poli board makes a stand!
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:46 am to
aren't these people gonna miss work tomorrow? I wonder if this federal offense affect their gubment checks?
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9918 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:02 am to
How does a fire cover up evidence of deer poaching?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71049 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:03 am to
quote:

If black lives matter people were on federal property protesting with Guns this board would be saying they need to be shot down.


If you gave 150 black males age 18-35 guns and put them in a confined space in the woods, cops wouldn't need to kill them. That problem would fix itself.
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:34 am to
YoU don't want to go down that path. It's already proven that by percentages blacks are wayyyyyyyyy more likely to be on government assistance. You know this. I know this. The world knows this. I understand you goal here, but talking about government assistance with get you nowhere because of the percentages of blacks on it compared to literally every other race. Try a different path. I know you are just trying to say what people say about blacks, however the percentages don't help you.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:36 am to
quote:

If black lives matter people were on federal property protesting with Guns this board would be saying they need to be shot down.

white doing this = militia
blacks = thugs

Sincerely,
The OT and Conservative Media
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:37 am to
quote:

YoU don't want to go down that path. It's already proven that by percentages blacks are wayyyyyyyyy more likely to be on government assistance. You know this. I know this. The world knows this. I understand you goal here, but talking about government assistance with get you nowhere because of the percentages of blacks on it compared to literally every other race. Try a different path. I know you are just trying to say what people say about blacks, however the percentages don't help you.

Nevertheless, the majority of blacks are not. However, that does not stop the haters here, now does it.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:37 am to
Good for them.

Question Authority!
Posted by iamAG
Member since Aug 2015
3517 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:46 am to
No it doesnt. But over 40 percent of blacks are on government assistance, a number that is alarming. This is off topic though. I know the point you were attempting to make.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:48 am to
quote:

How does a fire cover up evidence of deer poaching?








So basically the govt is lying about the poaching and used it as an excuse to railroad the guys into prison.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71049 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:52 am to
A total guess here, but setting a fire could be used to explain the loss of tagged deer.

The guys admitted to setting the fire, so it's arson regardless.
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