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10 year anniversary of the last EF5 tornado, Moore, OK

Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:16 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:16 am

Better video in this Twitter link
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On this day 10 years ago, the last EF-5 rated tornado impacted Moore, Oklahoma.

Multiple nearby radars captured this tornado from birth to death, including OU’s PX1000 at very high spatiotemporal resolution (20 second samples at 30m resolution!)
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10866 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:25 am to
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OU’s PX1000 at very high spatiotemporal resolution (20 second samples at 30m resolution!


NERD
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1107 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:33 am to
I was driving from Dallas to Tulsa, listening to my IPOD! and out of the blue my phone blew up with 7 messages. Where are you!! Are you OK!! I called the wife back and was told about the F5, so I switched to the radio, and it was on every station. Phone systems must have been overloaded. That night is Tulsa was eerie as well, cause that system was moving that way.

Similar story, back in 2000 we were driving from Elk City, OK to OKC and again listening to CD's not radio when I started seeing cars in the ditch and 18 wheelers flipped, swapped to the radio to hear live coverage of a tornado going across I40 ripping shite apart. We slowed down and drove into OKC with damage everywhee.
Posted by tigger4ever
Member since Apr 2021
632 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:45 am to
Would be interesting to see the town now 10 years after the tornado.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34566 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:46 am to
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Moore, OK

Toby Keith's hometown.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19809 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:48 am to
We had a thread on here a few days prior discussing the setup. Then real-time updates the day of as the cell grew from a fledgling updraft into a monster.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15581 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:49 am to
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F5


Proof that the earth will, indeed, swallow you.

“Finger of God”
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62765 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:58 am to
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We had a thread on here a few days prior discussing the setup.

Missed it. Anyone got the link for it?
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9321 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 11:00 am to
Flying in and out of OKC after that it was amazing and sad seeing that path it took.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3127 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 11:04 am to
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Would be interesting to see the town now 10 years after the tornado.

It’s built back up, but there are random blocks of open land that I suspect used to have buildings on them
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53923 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 11:10 am to
I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but some of you may be interested in a roundtable that NWS Norman recently did for the anniversary.
National Weather Service Norman Roundtable: Remembering the 2013 Tornadoes
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29288 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 11:35 am to
A damn hurricane formed nearly instantaneously over land!!!
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Member since Jul 2021
1824 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 11:51 am to
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Would be interesting to see the town now 10 years after the tornado.


Not all, but much of that part of town was small homes, cheap late-60’s construction. It’s striking in those areas where there’s modern homes in large swaths between the older janky-ish homes.

Makes you wonder about the people whose old homes didn’t get hit. They were praying to not get damage, but now the houses across the street are all nice, new homes…

Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:04 pm to
Amazingly, that was the last/most recent EF-5 tornado in the United States.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53923 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Amazingly, that was the last/most recent EF-5 tornado in the United States.

Don't say that too loudly, you will start an argument.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62765 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Don't say that too loudly, you will start an argument.



Even though we're in the midst of the longest absence of EF5/ F5 tornadoes in at least 70 years, the next one the world will inevitably get will stir up the immediate screams of climate change
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
13939 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:39 pm to
Ten year anniversary of the last official EF5 tornado. There have been several since but someone in the Obama administration put out an order to the NWS not to rate them as EF5. Villonia, Arkansas, Holly Springs, Mississippi, Chapman, Kansas, are three that most professional stormchasers will tell you were EF5 and they aren't the only ones. Those were all listed as EF4 but the surveys done either ignored obvious evidence or used flimsy excuses to justify not rating them EF5.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53923 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Ten year anniversary of the last official EF5 tornado. There have been several since but someone in the Obama administration put out an order to the NWS not to rate them as EF5. Villonia, Arkansas, Holly Springs, Mississippi, Chapman, Kansas, are three that most professional stormchasers will tell you were EF5 and they aren't the only ones. Those were all listed as EF4 but the surveys done either ignored obvious evidence or used flimsy excuses to justify not rating them EF5.


Ehh....

It has more to do with the way DIs are listed and used and the construction of homes and buildings relative to wind. Take the most recent candidate in Mississippi for example. There was little-to-no construction that would have survived a high-end EF-4 tornado. When that is the case, they will never bump the rating up to an EF-5. Could it have been? Sure. Was it undoubtedly a stronger tornado? We have no definitive way to answer that.

You can go down the list of all of the most recent examples and make a similar case. I think Mayfield is the strongest case for the bump. I will never jump on the "El Reno was an EF-5" (also in May of 2013) bandwagon because that one hit nothing at its strongest that would give any DIs of EF-5 strength.

That said, I 100% believe radar data should be incorporated in tornado surveys. If that were the case, El Reno 2013 would have certainly been an EF-5, along with others. However, that will always be limited by where the storm is relative to the radar. Every tornado survey won't be able to be backed up by quality radar data. Every storm won't have the "luck" of having a DOW near it when it produces a tornado. So, we are back to using DIs only for surveys.

Fortunately, we aren't too far away from seeing a revamp of the EF scale. Tim Marshall is leading those efforts. Some issues with rating violent tornadoes will likely be addressed with whatever "new" scale they come up with.

As to what the professional storm chasers say, as a community they have a habit of swinging the complete opposite direction compared to the NWS survey crews. I've seen too much flimsy evidence and EF-5 wishcasting from too many of them to allow their opinions to trump those of the pros (not just weather, but engineers and such) who are involved in tornado surveys. That's just a reality of being there and wanting to hype a storm they just experienced. I've seen too many initial claims of "catostropic destruction" that is certainly a "violent tornado" that don't pan out to put a whole lot of stock in many of their opinions in any official capacity, strictly in the immediate aftermath of a tornado. It is just how things are in that community, for better or worse.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42292 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:31 pm to
Very well said, Legend.
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
19306 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:45 pm to
The El Reno tornado hit 11 days later. Crazy week or two in that state.
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