re: Would Ingram be a good pick if still available for saints?

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if they pass on him because of the knee thats their bad.

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so if a guy has a physical issue you think will be a problem and might derail or shorten his career it's a good thing to take him early?

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draft focuses too much on value

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So what should it focus on? You're an advocate of need over value? We might not have any starting strong safety if Harper bolts. So say screw what the boards say we're getting DeAndre McDaniel at 24?

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if u think you have an impact runningback (not many in the league) you draft them round 1

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Definition of impact? Arian Foster 1616 yds?-Undrafted. Jammal Charles 1467yds?-3rd Rd. Michael Turner 1371yds? 5th Rd. Ahmad Bradshaw 1235yds? 7th Rd. Peyton Hillis 1177yds? 7th Rd Green-Ellis 1008yds? undrafted. Blount 1007yds? undrafted. Ivory 716yds in 12 games?

If the Saints took him I'd be fine with it though. They should have earned everyone's trust by this time.

As much of an lsu fan i am, i love and respect mark ingram as a player and a man. But if u havent heard, we have chris ivory returning who is probably at way greater value than mark is right now, we just signed pierre thomas to a 4 yr contract, and the saints front office plust coach sesn psyton hsve said the were working on a deal to keep reggie. so with all of them returning it doesnt make since drafting a RB in the first round when we have serious holes still to feel on defense.if he is the best left on the board so be it. but the front 7 in this yrs draft is so deep i dont see where we would not choose defense in the first three rounds

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. If they think a running back could help do that, they should pull the trigger one of these years.

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If they think...as opposed to what not thinking a RB could help and drafting one anyway?

Sure an impact RB would help but so would an impact pass rusher right?

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stud college backs, are stud NFL backs...

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and there will be studs in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds

RBs aren't worth much in the NFL b/c there are so damn many of them

plus this RB has a shitty knee

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As much of an lsu fan i am, i love and respect mark ingram as a player and a man. But if u havent heard, we have chris ivory returning who is probably at way greater value than mark is right now, we just signed pierre thomas to a 4 yr contract, and the saints front office plust coach sesn psyton hsve said the were working on a deal to keep reggie. so with all of them returning it doesnt make since drafting a RB in the first round when we have serious holes still to feel on defense.if he is the best left on the board so be it. but the front 7 in this yrs draft is so deep i dont see where we would not choose defense in the first three rounds

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Despite this being hard to read, this man is using real logic here. We have RBs. They are prone to injury, yes, but they aren't turrible. We need a durable bruiser from the 2nd or 3rd round, not an already injured guy from the 1st.

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yeah i mean guys like helu or ridley may fall. and i say ridley b/c i know more about him...not b/c he's an LSU guy

ridley may be an option in the 5th or 6th round, for example. that's a better value

hell, take a flyer on graig cooper if he falls to the 4-5 round range. he's not a workhorse but has explosive ability

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Right. Besides being an LSU homer, I wouldn't mind getting Ridley in the 4-5 round range. He's not a burner but he's cuts very well and has good vision. He won't WOW you but he is a workhorse back. The problem is we don't have any picks after 3 until round 7 so we'd have to trade down from our 1st pick and pick up maybe a 2, 3 and a couple of later rounds.

We have a 1,2,3,3,7 this year. I'm inclined to think that we'll either give up one of those 3s to pick up later picks (which I doubt) or use a 3rd to pick up a RB. Depending on how Charles Brown is doing, I would draft a strong DE such as Ryan Kerrigan in the 1st, an OT in the 2nd, an OLB in the 3rd, a workhorse RB in the 3rd, and in the 7th.. hell idk, find a diamond in the rough like this organization always does.

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He had his knee scoped. It really isn't that big of an issue.

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NFL teams with more information and access to his medical records than you or I would seem to differ.

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if they pass on him because of the knee thats their bad. draft focuses too much on value. if u think you have an impact runningback (not many in the league) you draft them round 1

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not many in the league but it isn't a position of extreme value anymore...tell me the last stud superbowl champ running back...no way in hell I spend a first rounder on a guy that is going to get hit 300 times a year

I think it makes more sense picking a RB in the 2nd and 3rd.

I think there is more value to the Saints to draft DL, OL, and LB over RB in the first round.