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What people fail to realize is some of the blame

Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17743 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:15 pm
needs to go to Payton and Brees and heres why. Yes the PI should of been called but it should of never came to that.

1st and 10 from the 13 with i think 1:50 left. Rams have 2 timeouts left. Under no circumstances do you throw the ball in this situation. You run the ball twice make the Rams burn there last timeouts. Then on 3rd down you run it again and then kick the FG with a minute left and Rams have no timeouts left when they get the ball. i get it they had a run call on 1st down and the box was loaded so he changed it to a pass. Nooooooooooooooo you run the ball there and do not change the play call. Payton should of told Brees run the play and do not audible out of it. Instead we throw the ball incomplete pass and Rams have a free timeout there.

So instead of Rams having the ball with a minute left or less and no timeouts they have it with a 1:40 left and one timeout left. Thats a big difference. Go ahead and bash or downvote i really dont care but thats what should of happened. This was the championship game to go to the Super bowl not some regular season game. You do not audible out of the run play plain and simple.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
32967 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:16 pm to
We had the game won you twat
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79616 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

What people fail to realize is some of the blame needs to go to Payton and Brees


Annndddd here we go. Again.
Posted by NOLATiger86
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2005
8192 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:17 pm to
This is brand new information. Thanks.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20355 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:18 pm to
Payton was being aggressive like he has all year which got us to the game in the first play. The call would have been perfect had Drew not messed up the throw which was a high percentage pass. Drew connects on that and game over.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:18 pm to
No. all the blame goes on the refs. nothing in your post actually matters because the game should've already been over.
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32249 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

What people fail to realize
Is we got hosed on the PI call. PI gets called, we have the ball 1st and goal at the 1 yard line with 1:40 left, Rams have one timeout, we kneel it three times, kick the game winning FG with 3 seconds left.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6858 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:19 pm to
If the game is called fairly, we kick the fg with 15 seconds. They’d have one timeout. Game over. This argument hold no water man, the saints did everything they had to do to win the game
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17743 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Payton was being aggressive like he has all year which got us to the game in the first play. The call would have been perfect had Drew not messed up the throw which was a high percentage pass. Drew connects on that and game over.





I agree if the throw was there we probably get first down. But your missing my point thats not the time to be aggressive. This wasnt a regular season game it was the championship game. You do that crap in the regular season not in this game at that point in time.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

What people fail to realize is some of the blame
needs to go to Payton and Brees and heres why. Yes the PI should of been called but it should of never came to that.


And yet..had the official made the correct call, the Saints would have won the game.

Essentially what continuing to point things like this out is doing is to expect one team to have beaten the other twice.

Yes...had they beaten them worse up until that point, that call would not have mattered. But what they had done is played them tight enough to have gotten into the position to win the game, and but for the poor call...they'd have won.

Everything else is a diversion. And I say this as I guy that has no rooting interest in that game on Sunday at all.
Posted by Olric
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
1886 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:21 pm to
You must be old, 1:10 with no timeouts is an eternity in today's nfl. You stay aggressive and try to get the first down/td which would have happened if everyone was doing their job
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:21 pm to
These threads are nonsensical. Neither team played a perfect game. The refs missed calls for both teams. Those things happen every game. The no calls on both the PI and the interception in OT were egregious. Ask yourself what the narrative would be if this happened to the Cowboys or Patriots.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79616 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

I agree if the throw was there we probably get first down. But your missing my point thats not the time to be aggressive. This wasnt a regular season game it was the championship game. You do that crap in the regular season not in this game at that point in time.


And if the official does his job and makes the right call two plays later, nobody’s even talking about that pass today.

/thread
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22188 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:22 pm to
There is a very strong appearance of corruption that in no way falls on Peyton or Brees.

(Well, other than whatever the hell Peyton did to Goodell to earn this lifelong enmity.)
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17743 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

s we got hosed on the PI call. PI gets called, we have the ball 1st and goal at the 1 yard line with 1:40 left, Rams have one timeout, we kneel it three times, kick the game winning FG with 3 seconds left.





hey dummy because you are dumb im talking about what should of been done on the first 3 downs whenn it was 1st and 10 from the 13. Throw the PI no call out this is what should of been done.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79616 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

should of been done


Should have been done.

You keep doing this. You don’t need to be calling anybody else a dummy until you can get that simple thing right.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72507 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:25 pm to
ZACH STRIEF AND NFLer DISGAREES WITH YOU

he said as much on radio this morning.

the saints did enough to win.
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32249 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

hey dummy
quote:

im
quote:

whenn
Are you a 13 year old girl?
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17743 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:28 pm to
Run the ball-Timeout
Run the ball-Timeout
Run the ball bleed the clock down to a minute or less kick FG and leave them with no timeouts thats the correct sequence in that situation plain and simple.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

This wasnt a regular season game it was the championship game. You do that crap in the regular season not in this game at that point in time.


This is irrelevant.

Yes...while watching the game I said out loud that I'd have run the ball three time for the purpose of forcing them to burn their TO's and run most but not all of the clock.

And yet, despite having the first down incomplete had the third down play been called correctly, they'd have won.

Point is, the cal was not the ONLY reason the Saints lost, but had it been called correctly they most certainly would have won. The second part is the most important thing.

In addition, people sometimes fails to grasp that a football game (or any sport for that matter) is no played in isolation where they can simply go back throughout the game and pick and choose which parts to change while thinking the rest of the game would have played out exactly as it ended up doing. Had the Saints done better earlier, it could very well have meant that McVay was forced to call different, more effective plays and the Rams may have caught up faster and pulled ahead.

The ONLY TIME in a game where you can realistically do that is at the very end when there is no time left for the alternate reality to play out. The only way the Saints lose had the PI been called would have been if the kicker missed the chipshot, or the Rams miraculously scored on the KO or one long Hail Mary play.
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