re: We joked about Graham..but he's actually ruining Seattles run game (article)

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I'm never going to personally attach the guy

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I have nothing against him either, but we simply won that trade. Shame we didn't do it a year earlier where we could have gotten some monster value and saved tons of $.

For ya'll complaining about the rushing yards....ya'll act like we went against the front 7 of a Pee Wee team when in all actuality Zona is very stout.

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54 yards at 2.7 per rush is embarrassing for a professional football team. I don't care who you are going up against.

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It's not ideal by any stretch of the imagination. But it can happen to any NFL team any week; shite Denver ran for 61 yards on 22 carries which by my math is 2.7 yards per carry. The difference is Manning was able to attack KC's defensive secondary. Fact is if our WR's get some separation Brees is able to find them instead of checking it down and we more than likely score at least 1 more TD which would have changed the entire complexity of that game and we aren't even talking about the yards per carry.

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Our best offense, 2011

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Had Jimmy Graham

I know what you mean, but I'm not optimistic at this point.

Graham has always been kind of soft and amiable. He will let an aggressive DB check him and shut him down. In that regard he will not be missed. However, Saints made it in the Red Zone 4 times and scored one touchdown. In a congested area like the red zone a big target comes in handy. Graham scored 10 touch downs last season. Those touch downs will be missed.If you cut 10 touch downs out of anyone's offense, they loose the majority of their games.Drew scored 33 TDs last year and 10 were to Graham. That's almost a third. If you dont think he'll be missed from that aspect, you're fooling yourself.

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Only 3 teams scored more than 20 on ARI last year. Let's wait a few weeks to determine that we can't score.

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And that was without the Honey Badger for most of the season. He was all over the field making plays last week.

The Saints played a very good defense on the road to begin the season. Let's take a deep breath and relax and wait to see what they do at home against what looks to be a pretty bad Tampa team before making snap judgments.

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did we give Hill or Watson a chance to run the same plays that we normally would have run for Graham

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Since we only had 1 pass that actually went into the endzone, I would assume we did not have them run similar routes.

I'd also add the 6'6" Coleman to the list of people that will be utilized to fill that JG role in the redzone, eventually.

His football reference page. Click touchdown tab. They document each TD along with its distance, quarter etc.

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anyone who watched the cards game and didn't think graham would have made th saints offense better was in a coma

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Well, as you must know, that's not the only question on the table. Obviously Graham would have made our red zone offense better from a receiving stand point, but to what degree would that have been mitigated by having some half-assed solution at the center position? Doesn't matter who's catching the ball if Drew has no time to throw it.

And of course there's the question of whether or not we have found a great young talent to anchor the linebacker corps for the next ten years.

come on dude, you're smarter than that. How many can't miss guys have we drafted that didn't pan out? We needed a guaranteed solution at the Center position on day one and we got it.