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re: We have enough Linebackers. Safety was the right pick.

Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:02 am to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:02 am to
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No, it's just interpretation. It said watching the backfield and bites on play action. What the frick you think that means.

Loses a step running down the seam with bad coverage mechanics. What the frick do you think that means...he has trouble running to the sideline after the play is over?


It means he has weaknesses based on this scouting report.

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It's basic reading comprehension.


How is saying he has weakness means he gets beat over the top a lot basic reading comprehension when not 1 scouting report says that? You have already proven you don't know anything about the player, so I know you haven't watched any plays where he was beaten over the top.

The kid is a safety that plays in the box, of course he has some weaknesses. You're just exagerating those weaknesses.

He's not going to be a free safety asked to play centerfield because that's not his position.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:06 am to
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How is saying he has weakness means he gets beat over the top a lot basic reading comprehension when not 1 scouting report says that?


Oh good god. What the frick you think happens when you bite on play action or get caught looking in the back field.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:08 am to
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Oh good god. What the frick you think happens when you bite on play action or get caught looking in the back field.


You are caught out of position.

You can still do that without "getting beat over the top a lot."


Here's part of another scouting report on him:

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Quickly locates the ball and shows an understanding of route-progression, rarely getting caught out of position.


So does this mean he rarely gets beat over the top?
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 11:10 am
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:09 am to
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Cajun thinks he is shite.


I don't think he'll be shite but not much an upgrade over what we have already. Maybe younger but people will be complaining about him in 3 years just like they do about Harper.

I just think it's ridiculous people act like he's Troy Polamalu or Adrian Wilson.
Posted by 504Voodoo
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:10 am to


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Been waiting for the glass half full post. Thanks.


Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:12 am to
So you have bad technique but you're "fast". That means he'll never get beat over the top just out of position. I give you Patrick Robinson.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:15 am to
He's a 5'11 safety that is good at run support like said on here. Just an awful pick based on what they need. Texas dfense was terrible last season and he was part of it.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:16 am to
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So you have bad technique but you're "fast". That means he'll never get beat over the top just out of position


WTF are you talking about. You change you're criticism of Vaccaro with every post. Pretty much every scouting report says he has good technique and good coverage skills.

I never said he never got caught out of position, I just refuted your claim that he got beat over the top a lot.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:16 am to
Apparently those 40+ points they gave up a game happened everywhere but in Vaccaro's sphere of influence.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:17 am to
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Apparently those 40+ points they gave up a game happened everywhere but in Vaccaro's sphere of influence


Good prospects never come from bad teams.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:18 am to
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WTF are you talking about. You change you're criticism of Vaccaro with every post. Pretty much every scouting report says he has good technique and good coverage skills.



Bad technique (backpedal is high and stiff, can be out-quicked in space, and loses a step running down the seam)means you're susceptible to getting beat over the top. He is a run support safety. I don't understand how you can have good coverage skills but struggle with being caught out of position. That seems like an oxymoron.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 11:19 am
Posted by Laaz2750
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:19 am to
I'd love to go back and watch the game from early this past season where Texas played WVU. I know the Texas D wasn't very good but Geno Smith threw for a ton of yards and like 4 touchdowns. I'd like to watch the game from beginning to end and see if Vaccaro was a bright spot in an otherwise ugly Defensive performance.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:19 am to
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He's a 5'11 safety that is good at run support like said on here. Just an awful pick based on what they need. Texas dfense was terrible last season and he was part of it.


I've seen him listed at 6'0 and even 6'2. He's really good at coverage though. He played well against Tavon Austin, which should tell you what type of athlete he is.

There are good players on bad defenses, and there are so so players on good defenses.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 11:20 am
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:19 am to
So a single player can't play well on a bad D?

The Saints gave up 7000 yards last season. Curtis Lofton had a good year. So, now he sucks? Cam Jordan had more tackles at the LOS than any other DE. So he sucks too? Your logic sucks.
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:21 am to
I'll repeat my point:

I don't understand how you can have good coverage skills but struggle with being caught out of position. That seems like an oxymoron.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:22 am to
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I don't understand how you can have good coverage skills but struggle with being caught out of position.


Being overaggressive
Posted by Cajun Revolution
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:25 am to
And that's Vaccaro's problem with his 2 INTs for the season- with 0 sacks and 0 FFs. And 2 Pass defended.
This post was edited on 4/26/13 at 11:26 am
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:25 am to
Being a former HS and college player myself I watched the kid at the combine, on TV of course. Hip movements were real stiff in backpedals which def indicates that he is not good in coverage. He will be a work in progress. Tyrann Mathieu and even Eric Reid has much better hip movement. Only time wil tell how good Vaccaro is, but the Saints could have done better.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 11:25 am to
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