re: We have enough Linebackers. Safety was the right pick.

I'm really hoping we can trick a team into taking him in a trade, even if it's a 7th round pick in 2048.

For those saying he should move to linebacker, that's insane. He would have to at least put on 25 lbs, and even then he'd be lite for an outside linebacker. And how would that effect his *cough* speed? It's a pipe dream.

It's one thing to blitz. It's another thing to be assigned to take on tackles, tigtends and fullbacks.

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In the last 5 years how many times has the top 2 safeties in a draft been a bust compared to the 4th pass rusher?

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If I told you this kid had the potential of Malcom Jenkins...would you still draft him at 15? Because that's essentially what I heard last night. Played the slot alot...didn't play much safety...wants him to run around make plays.

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o I'm not sure who you heard that from.

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Quote from Payton, himself. Very little film of the kid actually playing safety.

I heard Vaccaro himself say he played a lot of nickel. I doubt Payton said that though...

Well then I don't know what to tell you. Not much film on safety means he didn't play true safety very often. frick, that's basic logic.

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Not much film on safety means he didn't play true safety very often. frick, that's basic logic.

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He didn't say there wasn't much film at him on safety, they said they had to get more film of him on safety which obviously means there was more film of him at safety. frick, that's basic logic.

You can simply look up his highlights to see he plays both safety spots as well as nickle.

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Jenkins was a CB that went to safety

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A CB correct, he didn't play the nickle. Go count how many times Vaccaro lined up on the outside as a CB.

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This kid obviously hasn't played much true safety and worked more in the slot as an Nickel.

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He played wherever he was needed, FS, SS, nickle. His versatility is why he was rated so high. At least watch some of the kid's film before spouting off shite you don't know.

I posted my opinion in another thread, but felt this to be appropriate:

I don't mind the safety pick, but the depth at safety in this draft seemed to trump using 15 for Vaccaro. I'm sure they did what they wanted or were able to do, but if it was possible they needed to trade down and could have targeted Elam or Reid and added a pick. Obviously I don't know what the hell they tried, but Vaccaro IMHO was not far and away better than the next 2-3 safeties especially considering he has not been evaluated as a ball hawking safety which is something the Saints have sorely missed since Sharper. I think Reid projects as a Darren Sharper style safety, and would have loved to see Reid in the black and gold.

Here's to hoping Vaccaro proves me wrong



Saints should seek a quality tackle moving forward. Protect Breesus.

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Please. When the coach says they had to go back and get film of him playing safety means it was years ago and not recent. It's been a long fricking time. He also had safety help behind him and played the nickel...as Sean Payton was fricking quoted

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Seriously watch some film on the guy, he played plenty of safety and it was a fricking long time ago. He didn't start until he was a junior.

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He compares to Jenkins as they were both seen as "versatile". Go look up the Scouting report, it's damn identical.

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Vaccaro:

Strengths:
Instinctive
Quickness
Man-coverage ability on tight ends and slot receivers
Fluid; can flip his hips and run
Covers a lot of ground
Always around the ball
Solid run-defender
Natural playing in the box
Good height and length
Should be able to play quickly
Experienced & successful against good college talent
Good blitzer
Versatile
Athletic

Weaknesses:
Rarely lined up deep
Lacks elite speed
Could be a solid pro, but not a special player
Not a physical enforcer

Jenkins:
Strengths: Outstanding size for the position ... Consistently productive ... Very instinctive; keys in on the QBs eyes ... Soft hands and is a game-changer getting INTs ... Times jump balls at apex to break them up ... Teams do not go after him in red zone ... Big-time hitter and really lays the wood ... Very aware in zone coverage ... Eliminates space when QB delivers ball to break up passes ... Good tackling technique ... Jumps routes ... Smart and does the little things ... Stays low out of backpedal ... Knows how to jam receivers and take them out of their routes; frustrates opponents and gets in their heads ... Very competitive and is a winner ... Huge leader and team captain.

Weaknesses: Questionable long speed and does get beaten deep occasionally ... Lacks fluid hips ... Struggles when changing directions ... Sold on double move easily ... Range is inconsistent ... Can he run with No. 1 receivers? ... Might have to move to safety ... Timed speed is important for re-evaluation on tape.


Not similar really.

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Vaccaro was drafted for versatility with most of his film for the past few years playing "the slot" with safety help over the back. He hasn't played the true safety position since maybe his Freshmen year.

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He played mostly special teams his freshman year, at least read a little something about the kid before you make absurd claims. He played safety a lot. You do know safety isn't just lining up deep and playing centerfield, right? He played a lot of safety in the box? He's a safety that can cover the slot and TE, something which is pretty valuable at this point.


Jenkins was an outside corner. Vaccaro was a safety that played in the box a lot. I don't see how you can make the comparison between the 2.

Vaccaro's senior year he had 96 tackles with 9 TFL. Jenkins senior year he had 57 tackles with 4 TFL. And guess what, that's because Vaccaro plays a lot of safety it just happens to be closer to the line of scrimmage. Jenkins was a CB who didn't have the speed to play the position in the NFL so he switched to S.