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re: Vilma on CNN

Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:54 pm to
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Why are you getting so angry?


i didnt come into the thread calling people idiots and douchebags, you did.

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What does LSU have to do with the NFL? Do you have dummies in college football? Absolutely. But I attest that you need a pretty sound level of critical thinking and study skills to succeed in the NFL


well lsu puts a good amount of players in the nfl so i just used them as an example. ive lived in BR for a few years so Im more familiar with them. you need to be good at football. i doubt someone's critical thinking skills are that high on the priority list.

didnt patrick peterson get one of the worst scores ever on the wonderlic test? where and how is he doing right now?

i get you were a football player and were probably offended but what i originally said isnt some asinine statement. i was going to make a blanket statement and say that im going to assume that half of the players dont have a college degree but i decided to actually go look it up



from google so i dont know how accurate

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To give some reference points, according to a 2004 article, "NFL's Player Development Program Helps Players Prepare For Life After...", written by Chris Price in City Business claims, "Currently, 46 percent of NFL players have a college degree."


so its safe to say that a high school education is what plenty of them have

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Some professional football players have a rough time once they retire from the National Football League. Surveys of former NFL players have shown that 78 percent are bankrupt, unemployed or divorced after two years in retirement.


this is widely known to be true. doesnt help your stance that the nfl players are critical thinkers
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:11 am to
Who'd you play for?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:12 am to
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didnt patrick peterson get one of the worst scores ever on the wonderlic test? where and how is he doing right now?


You're thinking of Mo Claiborne
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:15 am to
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Two of the NFL's brightest future stars, LSU CB Patrick Peterson and Georgia WR A.J. Green, registered among the five lowest Wonderlic scores of the 330 participants at this year's Combine.

Peterson was one of four prospects who recorded a dreaded single-digit score, which NFL teams often equate with getting their name right,
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 1:36 am to
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The average NFL linebacker scores a 19 on the wonderlic



The Wonderlic doesn't mean shite though. Not even the IQ test is a true measurement of a person's intelligence. I know plenty of dumbass people that were honors students. They're still idiots though. At the same time I've known high school dropouts that were brilliant in one or more ways
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:56 am to
What are you guys even talking about anymore?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16439 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:58 am to
Oh I never knew that.

Mo scored a 4 though
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:41 am to
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doesnt take that much to see that it isnt a bunch of mathematicians and scientists running around on an nfl field.


You should just stop. You may be smart or not who knows but wisdom is not your strong suit.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:45 am to
Oh let me guess, you're an NFL player or were you another guy who was smart enough to realize that you weren't NFL caliber in college and took the free education instead?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64665 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:52 am to
Just I guy reading your post
Maybe put down the abacus and go get laid. You seem a bit angry.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:09 am to
That would be wise of me
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:12 am to
The Saints Front Office should issue a statement to remind everyone that Mr. Vilma's opinions are his own personal opinions and do not reflect the views, thoughts, attitudes and opinions of the New Orleans Saints.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:12 am to
did you even see the interview? im guessing not
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:16 am to
It's quite common for organizations like the Saints to make it clear that, while their own employees are entitled to their own views, the public should remember that the personal views of an employee do not necessarily reflect the views of the larger organization.

It's a simple way to allow Vilma to respond to follow up questions, and to allow the Saints coaches and executives to refer questions back to Vilma.

Such a statement is not intended to serve as a coded repudiation or endorsement of Vilma's statement, so, whether I saw the interview is not relevant.

For the record, I saw the interview.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:18 am to
I don't think he really needed an explanation on why a team would do that
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:30 am to
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Who'd you play for?

Mississippi State, started for 2 years. Was a walk on for my first year and they gave me a scholarship for my sophomore and junior year. I tore an MCL last game of that 3rd year and just decided then that even healthy I wasn't going to make it in the NFL so I kind of hung it up there. Plus I wanted to go back home so I transferred to Southeastern (and ultimately over to LSU for the engineering program).

Enjoyed the run I had, I know I wasn't the best player out on the field but there are few feelings in the world that can match the energy of playing football at a high level.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48683 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:33 am to
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I don't think he really needed an explanation on why a team would do that


The Saints FO should law low on all of this. If a reporter directly faces a coach, other player or executive, the response should be to refer questions back to Vilma, because the Saints' policy is to refrain from public discussion of Saints Draft Strategy.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6363 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:50 am to
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didnt patrick peterson get one of the worst scores ever on the wonderlic test? where and how is he doing right now?

There are few positions that are pure instinct anymore. Running back is one and nickel corner is probably the second (though it requires a good bit of preparation in the tape room to recognize tells).

Yes, as a football player I found it offensive. You just get tired of hearing the same repetitive statement about football players being dumb, this isn't football in the 80s where linebackers just filled their assigned gap. The modern NFL is very complicated; offenses have an entire season to establish a system that gets more efficient the more they play. Defenses have to literally watch everything and figure out as much about the play pre-snap as possible. It's not a job for the common idiot. Do they have idiots in the NFL? Absolutely. But they have idiots in just about any profession out there.

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Currently, 46 percent of NFL players have a college degree.


That's probably fairly accurate. You could also be operating under the misconception that you stop learning after high school. You can also flip this around, to be able to play in college you need a high school education, so players in the NFL have at least a high school education. As pointed out earlier, secretaries scored higher on Wonderlic; but you do not need a high school education to be a secretary. There are caveats to every scenario. I also have known plenty of successful people with just high school educations.

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Surveys of former NFL players have shown that 78 percent are bankrupt, unemployed or divorced after two years in retirement

The NFL is also very unique in you are handed a lot of money in a short period of time (less now with the new CBA) and at a young age. Not many people at 20-22 are well-equipped at handling large sums of money. At that age you also have the misguided feeling that you are invincible - no one thinks their career could be ended with one play. So when they go out and blow their money on a $150,000 car, they obviously aren't thinking that money may be the last check they will get.

And the divorce thing - it's hard for any marriage to survive a situation where a spouse has to travel a lot and work long hours. I don't care what profession it is, marriages don't fare well in that type of scenario. That was a major factor in my decision as well.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28922 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:53 am to
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shite some of the lsu players sound like they couldnt read a dr seuss book if i held a gun to their heads.


Posted by oilmanNO
Member since Oct 2009
2845 posts
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:56 am to
Is that funny because you're a writer?
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