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re: Vilma hearing updates...JUDGE DID NOT RULE TODAY

Posted on 8/10/12 at 11:21 am to
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 11:21 am to
I don't know why my phone does that.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 11:49 am to
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Don't read the comments under the article. Context is something that most of their readers can't grasp. They think the headline means she pre-decided the outcome and is trying to find a legal basis to rule. It's maddening.


the irony is that they have all pre-decided that the Saints ran a pay to injure program, and they all have less evidence than the judge has...
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 11:49 am to
I hope Vilma doesn't agree to a reduced suspension. I won't fault him if he does, I'm sure he wants to play. But if he agrees to a reduced suspension everyone will just say the Saints are guilty, so his name and the Saints will not be cleared.

Was listening to Houston sports talk and they were talking about when Andre Johnson should play in the preseason. One guy said week three, which is against the Saints. The other guy said do you really want to put him out there for the Saints to injure him? It was tongue in cheek, but it's still out there.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:09 pm to
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Houston


not surprised here. Like the atlanta media and fans... Wanna-bees
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 1:28 pm to
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And judge is Punting



I called it on page 1
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 2:05 pm to
Who is the worst group of commenters PFT or ESPN?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72223 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 2:06 pm to
why does espn news have VILMA TO PLAY

as a tab.

i guess i will find out but this doesnt make sense.
Posted by MikeTIGER83
Lake Charles Area
Member since Feb 2012
382 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 2:08 pm to
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otisLA85


Thanks for all the updates today!
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7775 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 2:38 pm to
did they make a ruling or is that coming later?
Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
167 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:19 pm to
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A federal judge questioned the fairness of the NFL's bounty investigation of the Saints, then held off on making any rulings while urging all sides to settle the matter on their own.


LINK
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 3:49 pm to
late to the party and don't want to bother my family for details. Can someone give me a quick run down of what's going on?
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 3:50 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:17 pm to
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Can someone give me a quick run down of what's going on?


The Cliffs Notes are Judge thinks Vilma is right and Goodell is wrong but isn't willing to do anything about it until August 30th when the arbitration ruling that sided with the league is appealed. She hopes they'll settle it or the arbitration appeal will reverse it's ruling that Goodell had the jurisdiction to hand out the penalty rather than whoever handles on field discipline as outlined in the CBA.

Read the thread until the courtroom updates end. There really isn't much chatter in between and most posts are a series of short tweets so it reads quickly.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34877 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:25 pm to
do you think the NFL will be eager to settle this out of court? or will they want to take this back to the courthouse?
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:39 pm to
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otisLA85



Nice job, sir.


Ready for this to all be over with.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

do you think the NFL will be eager to settle this out of court? or will they want to take this back to the courthouse?


I'm sure the league wants to settle but I don't think it matters. IMO Vilma is fighting as much for his name as his career and he probably won't settle unless the league is prepared to clear his name.
Posted by otisLA85
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2012
147 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:50 pm to
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do you think the NFL will be eager to settle this out of court? or will they want to take this back to the courthouse?


I would like to think, that after the way the judge just made her statement, they will work to settling it. She has seem to make it clear and even stated that she wants to rule in favor of Vilma and thinks RG was out of his jurisdiction. She's urging them to settle this or have arbitrator turn it over.

If this happens, she won't have to make the ruling and then have the NFL go to the 5th circuit and appeal her ruling. BY not making a ruling today she's actually helping Vilmas case. I know we are all tired of the waiting, just got to stick with it.

But it also wouldn't surprise me if the NFL says screw it, you can rule in Vilmas favor. We will just appeal it.
Posted by otisLA85
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2012
147 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:51 pm to
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I'm sure the league wants to settle but I don't think it matters. IMO Vilma is fighting as much for his name as his career and he probably won't settle unless the league is prepared to clear his name.


I agree. Unless they settle to remove his suspension completely, I think he'll keep fighting this.
Posted by otisLA85
Lafayette, LA
Member since Apr 2012
147 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 4:53 pm to
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Nice job, sir.


Ready for this to all be over with.


Thanks bro. I was attached to the updates, fully using my double monitors!

Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
8249 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 5:01 pm to
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: More good news for Vilma-judge believes that Vilma has shown irreparable harm. Key prong in getting injunctive relief.


If this same judge is the one that will hear Vilma's defamation of character suit, then She just gave us a hint as to which way she's leaning on that case too. If she already thinks Vilma was "irreparably harmed" by this sham than the NFL needs to settle everything now. If they do nothing they'll be losing both cases. The only way Goodell saves face now is if he reinstates everybody and tries the apology method. He's going down
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
11217 posts
Posted on 8/10/12 at 5:18 pm to
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The only way Goodell saves face now is if he reinstates everybody and tries the apology method. He's going down



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