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re: Video shows Will Smith did initially hit n run Hayes.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
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LE and several others have painted Smith as the aggressor
At what point did Hayes become the aggressor in your eyes?
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If you want people to be fair to Hayes, then hold yourself to the same standard for Will Smith.
truth is, before any of this even happened, Will Smith would have been just as likely to shoot someone as Cardell Hayes. Why dont you hold them to the same standard and wait for the facts to come out before you put him away for life?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:05 pm to bwallcubfan
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That's how it comes off to you because you want Smith to be completely innocent because you're a Saints fan.
Well thanks for telling me how I feel, Dr Freud. Send me the bill.
I think it's a bit trite, this early on to presume anything beyond what we know, and what we know looks really, really bad for Hayes.
Suggesting anything outside of that is a much bigger leap than a Saints fan forming the same opinion as the NOPD.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:05 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Smith has been dead for 2 days, so when you come on a Saints board and troll for 10 pages, seemingly sympathizing with the shooter, expect some blowback. but LE knows this.
So what you are saying, is that because Will Smith played for the Saints, he is free to do whatever the frick he wants?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:08 pm to bwallcubfan
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Has it been determined that there is no video of the actual shooting scene? I hadn't seen one way or the other.
I don't think there are many businesses where the shooting happened.
I guess it is possible that property owners might have security cameras.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:09 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I think it's a bit trite, this early on to presume anything beyond what we know,
what did LE or anyone else presume?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:09 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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I don't think there are many businesses where the shooting happened.
I guess it is possible that property owners might have security cameras.
gotcha
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:12 pm to Lester Earl
Lol
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are trolling so hard for Hayes, then when you get called out you want to pretend that you were just diagramming an auto accident.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are trolling so hard for Hayes, then when you get called out you want to pretend that you were just diagramming an auto accident.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:14 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Lol This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are trolling so hard for Hayes, then when you get called out you want to pretend that you were just diagramming an auto accident.
I think he's been fapping all day over all the disagreements he's been having with everyone.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:15 pm to Vacherie Saint
its sad that humans still think this way. smh at you.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:18 pm to Red Stick Tigress
quote:He was prolly fapping to how you were proven wrong with video evidence, then refused to acknowledge it. If yall would just admit actual facts proved by video evidence, he would have nothing to talk about really.
I think he's been fapping all day over all the disagreements he's been having with everyone.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:19 pm to bwallcubfan
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you want Smith to be completely innocent because you're a Saints fan. So anything that doesn't make Smith look good pisses you off.
"If It Doesn't Fit, You Must Acquit"
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:20 pm to Lester Earl
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So what you are saying, is that because Will Smith played for the Saints, he is free to do whatever the frick he wants?
sadly it seems several people posting in these threads think exactly that
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:21 pm to Lester Earl
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truth is, before any of this even happened, Will Smith would have been just as likely to shoot someone as Cardell Hayes.
Huh?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:22 pm to Lester Earl
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At what point did Hayes become the aggressor in your eyes?
i don't know, when you unload a whole clip at someone's back and at a bystander in the same vehicle.
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truth is, before any of this even happened, Will Smith would have been just as likely to shoot someone as Cardell Hayes. Why dont you hold them to the same standard and wait for the facts to come out before you put him away for life?
and that is an assumption. did Smith pull a gun, did Smith fire a gun, did Smith ever been arrested or convicted of illegally owning a gun. Nope, so guess what he wasn't just as likely to.
We do hold Smith's actions as stupid. He shouldn't have H&R, he shouldn't have drove off, he shouldn't have probably argued, but guess what he didn't shoot at Hayes did he. Not at his front, back, side, leg, foot, hand, at ANY point did he fire a gun. Hayes shot at Smith's back, unless Smith blindly pointed his gun backwards, than where's the fact he put someone in danger?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:22 pm to Lester Earl
I don't think that is what a lot of people are saying. I'm curious if you think given the facts you know, the location, time, etc of the first incident and the video, the pursuit looked potentially dangerous and capable of giving rise to a conflict. I do and when you have a guy shot dead who happens to be a former Saints player and his wife injured as well, the guy who chose to engage in the pursuit and did the shooting is going to have some difficult explaining to do, and I don't need any more facts to draw that conclusion.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:23 pm to teampick
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the guy who chose to engage in the pursuit and did the shooting is going to have some difficult explaining to do, and I don't need any more facts to draw that conclusion.
what about the initial hit and run that caused this chain of events...
all good?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:23 pm to Fun Bunch
what dont you understand ?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:24 pm to gmrkr5
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what about the initial hit and run that caused this chain of events...
all good?
Dude seriously?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:25 pm to Lester Earl
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At what point did Hayes become the aggressor in your eyes?
When he retaliated by rearended Will Smiths car.
We need to let all the facts come out and both individuals played apart in this. However if I had been hit and run like Hayes I would have only followed to get the license plate of the car and then reported it to the police
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:25 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Dude seriously?
yes, seriously.. you're totally cool with the fact that Will SMith committed a crime which set off this chain of events?
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