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Underhill breakdown of Monday night
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:12 am
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Few nuggets:
Some good film breakdown of the Josh Hill incompletion, which looked in real time to me to be Hill’s fault for slowing down and film proved that. Other clips comparing routes to 2018 execution. Really good stuff from Nick, as always.
Few nuggets:
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Some of Brees’ lowest moments that have become talking points to illustrate his demise weren’t solely his fault.
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Dropped passes, bad routes, improper depths – all of these things paint a picture of the quarterback that was much worse than it actually is on film. Not saying it was good, or that there should be zero concerns moving forward, just that it wasn’t as bad as it initially looked.
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Brees is responsible for all of these throws to some degree. He could have done things differently on each, but he isn’t alone in the errors. That matters, and it should change the perception of the performance a little bit. Seeing the most-accurate passer of all-time miss throws due to accuracy issues is inexplicable. Seeing the most-accurate passer of all-time miss throws when the offense’s timing is out of sync makes a lot more sense.
Some good film breakdown of the Josh Hill incompletion, which looked in real time to me to be Hill’s fault for slowing down and film proved that. Other clips comparing routes to 2018 execution. Really good stuff from Nick, as always.
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:23 am to DBG
The melt on these boards is beyond embarrassing during any loss. The loss was pretty simple. They just executed better than us. The offense was clicking early and then play got beyond sloppy on offense. The lack of discipline that caused 130 penalty yards is unacceptable. The dropped passes are awful and drew has played poorly along with the Oline. The penalty yards and the TOP were the determining factors in that game. They’ll rebound and our ridiculous fanbase will hop back on the bandwagon. But in all honesty I’m not sure we are legit super bowl contenders. If this is the brees that is left they won’t win it. His lack of arm strength never truly bothered me cause they still couldn’t stop him. But he looks to barely be able to throw the ball 25 yards. Very concerning.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:27 am to RawDog7984
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The melt on these boards is beyond embarrassing during any loss. The loss was pretty simple. They just executed better than us. The offense was clicking early and then play got beyond sloppy on offense. The lack of discipline that caused 130 penalty yards is unacceptable. The dropped passes are awful and drew has played poorly along with the Oline. The penalty yards and the TOP were the determining factors in that game. They’ll rebound and our ridiculous fanbase will hop back on the bandwagon. But in all honesty I’m not sure we are legit super bowl contenders. If this is the brees that is left they won’t win it. His lack of arm strength never truly bothered me cause they still couldn’t stop him. But he looks to barely be able to throw the ball 25 yards. Very concerning.
Not just that they executed better: the LV coaches made adjustments.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:37 am to RawDog7984
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They just executed better than us
And why was that?
Did they have more time to practice?
Did they have more senior players?
Was their coach a more senior coach?
Why did we execute so poorly?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:38 am to OvertheDwayneBowe
You can see add that to the list. Mainly on Dennis Allen. Our defense didn’t change it up much and they got picked apart with short quick passes. The fact that it took so long for him to even consider taking away Waller is pretty embarrassing.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:40 am to doubleb
It’s a simple answer. May not be what you want to hear or as dramatic as you want it to be but sometimes teams just play like crap. You don’t execute well. And you lose when you don’t. This happens every year with every team. It doesn’t mean anything major. If this is the norm for the year then yeah it’s a major problem. It’s week 2 with no preseason and no real offseason. Take a breath man.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:44 am to RawDog7984
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It’s a simple answer. May not be what you want to hear or as dramatic as you want it to be but sometimes teams just play like crap. You don’t execute well. And you lose when you don’t. This happens every year with every team. It doesn’t mean anything major. If this is the norm for the year then yeah it’s a major problem. It’s week 2 with no preseason and no real offseason. Take a breath man.
Right, it’s the nature of the game. Things don’t always click.
The thing is I see people making excuses as to why we look bad. Rust, bad timing, guys running wrong routes, etc.
We are a veteran team, that shouldn’t happen to the extent that people are saying.
Well know soon whether this game was a defining game or an outlier. History has told us it’s probably an outlier.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:46 am to doubleb
Brees' happy feet, and shuffling around/being uncomfortable back in the pocket is very concerning though, especially when he doesn't actually have to avoid pressure.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:49 am to RawDog7984
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They’ll rebound
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If this is the brees that is left they won’t win it. His lack of arm strength never truly bothered me cause they still couldn’t stop him. But he looks to barely be able to throw the ball 25 yards. Very concerning.
If this is all true then we aren't rebounding from shite.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:49 am to RawDog7984
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Mainly on Dennis Allen
never been much of a fan of his. right or wrong. i did just talk to someone about learning this year if Dennis is the man, or if some credit should go to Mike Nolan.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:55 am to RawDog7984
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Our defense didn’t change it up much and they got picked apart with short quick passes. The fact that it took so long for him to even consider taking away Waller is pretty embarrassing.
Also have to credit Gruden.
How many times have we yelled at Payton that if something is working so well, why move away from it?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:00 am to RawDog7984
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The melt on these boards is beyond embarrassing during any loss.
Bandwagon fans
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:22 pm to RawDog7984
They defend Tom brady no matter what with excuses and blame on anyone but him at tampa bay. But not brees. They tear him apart and do the exact opposite
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:46 pm to DBG
the lackluster start was a combination of factors, due to lack of practice from Covid, to injuries, to lack of cohesion, to inept play calling, etc....
now, will these things get sorted out, or will they continue to plague this team? guess we'll see soon enough... one thing IS for certain though, and that's that they have quite.a few issues to get straightened out
now, will these things get sorted out, or will they continue to plague this team? guess we'll see soon enough... one thing IS for certain though, and that's that they have quite.a few issues to get straightened out
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:55 pm to RawDog7984
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The melt on these boards is beyond embarrassing during any loss. The loss was pretty simple. They just executed better than us.
How does them executing better make it not worse? I can take losing to a better team, but to lose by not executing is shite. There is not a spot on the field they are more talented than us, except maybe TE.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:34 pm to RawDog7984
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RawDog7984
You seemed insulted last week when I suggested that LV could score with us. Thoughts?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:49 pm to DBG
The Raiders never punted after the 1stQ
The one "stop" our defense got came because their RB dropped a simple pitch.
Lack of a downfield passing game hurts, no question, but people putting more blame on Drew over the defense seems crazy to me. They were abysmal.
The one "stop" our defense got came because their RB dropped a simple pitch.
Lack of a downfield passing game hurts, no question, but people putting more blame on Drew over the defense seems crazy to me. They were abysmal.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:03 pm to GynoSandberg
Lol no. I don’t think you understood what i was showing you. You were obviously concerned that our offense wouldn’t be able to move the ball without Thomas yet thought it could be a shootout. Did i see them hammering us with such efficiency? Hell no. If you did then kudos to you but i don’t think many saw that coming. I just thought it was an interesting take of a possible shootout with your negative thoughts of our offense. I think we missed Thomas and nobody is surprised by that. But they moved the ball well when they decided they didn’t want to shoot them selves in the foot and go in the opposite direction.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:12 pm to RawDog7984
I didn’t understand? 
The point was LV can score, and if we were forced to keep pace we may be in trouble. I can’t even call it a shootout bc a shootout takes two capable teams on offense
The point was LV can score, and if we were forced to keep pace we may be in trouble. I can’t even call it a shootout bc a shootout takes two capable teams on offense
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:15 pm to GynoSandberg
Lol. I think the 17 quick points we put up showed that we could score. Hard to score when the opposing team has the ball for over an entire quarter longer than you. That’s defense buddy. Now after those quick 17 points it seemed we no longer wanted to catch the ball or not have a penalty anytime we made a significant play.
And yes, you still don’t seem to understand. You said we wouldn’t be able to move the ball yet mentioned a possibile shootout. Seems a bit weird doesn’t it?
And yes, you still don’t seem to understand. You said we wouldn’t be able to move the ball yet mentioned a possibile shootout. Seems a bit weird doesn’t it?
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